VirginAmerica salary scale?

[dash8driver]

quote: so you are both okay with agreeing to work for crap wages and , Hence,(big word) promote management's ability to pay said crap wages. BY JOHN DOE

since when is it that when you get hired at an airline its a wage bidding process to see who gets the job? do they take a poll in the interview and ask what you'd fly for and then take the lowest bidder? no its not. its purely based on the # of total pilots wanting the job. when there are very few pilots available they offer more pay, to entice the pilots to come work for them rather than the other company. when there is an abundance of pilots, they can afford to pay less because if you dont want the job, there are 10 behind you that do.

its a pretty simple concept, really....

 

[starchkr]

A smart man will always have something on the side for when times are tough. Why would anyone rely on just a single profession to pay their bills? For myself, i run a fishing charter on the weekends, which costs $1000 a day for the boat and all equip and bait. My expenses run approx $300 for the entire trip. This more than makes up the slack that my current flying job leaves me with. and if i had to i could easily live off the income generated by it alone. As far as this thread goes...as said before, WHY would you rely on one thing to provide for your family? Shouldn't you have a back up plan to provide for them? As far as flying as a hobby...yeah, so some of us do it...so what?!?! The arguements against it are ludacris! Also, as far as supply and demand...well i can go with that.

 

[JohnDoe]

quote from dash8driver:
"its purely based on the # of total pilots wanting the job. when there are very few pilots available they offer more pay, to entice the pilots to come work for them rather than the other company. "

I believe I have already agreed to and stated that premis.........


quote from starckr:
"WHY would you rely on one thing to provide for your family? "

You're right, people that only work in one profession in this country are in the minority.......
And who said anything about "when times are tough."


Say what you want, but as someone who derives their income off of flying, it torques me to see someone who doesn't care what wages are being paid because they are only there to have "fun."

 

[dash8driver]

quote from dash8driver:
"its purely based on the # of total pilots wanting the job. when there are very few pilots available they offer more pay, to entice the pilots to come work for them rather than the other company. "

I believe I have already agreed to and stated that premis.........

you've failed to state why this group within the larger supply group is more responsible than the rest. is there some kind of salary bidding that goes on before they hire?

no one said they didnt want to make more. but lets go with your assumption and say that they didnt care...what if they did care to make more? would that somehow affect the supply and demand premise?

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Ok now all you p31 and Jr cessna pilots get a clue!!!! TWA, Pan Am, Braniff, Eastern UNSTABLE career!!! Grow the Fuk up. No one said anything about poor wages did they?? Now what I said if you cared to pay attention instead of typing you would have gotton the fact that I was a non supporter of concession when I was a regional pilot and very loud about it at that. What my point was children!! is this always have a back up plan!!!

Next time you people want to ban wagon a subject you best have and know all the facts prior to stepping to me with that BS. I really ain't no easy A$$ whip!!!!

WD.

 

[AA717driver]

RJP--The $120k happened before the AA bucks. Sorry I didn't clarify that in the post.TC

 

[tkr-toad]

More than one career???

Now, why would I want to work two careers simultaneously to put food on the table? Personally, I was fortunate enough to marry a woman who has a career of her own (part time right now as I do well enough to support our not-living-above- our-means lifestyle). Now, I'll never be faboulously wealthy, but I'm happy where I'm at with a good balance of $$$ and QOL. I agree that owning your own business is the only way to go to keep the balance and generate addtional income.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Now, why would I want to work two careers simultaneously to put food on the table? Personally, I was fortunate enough to marry a woman who has a career of her own (part time right now as I do well enough to support our not-living-above- our-means lifestyle). Now, I'll never be faboulously wealthy, but I'm happy where I'm at with a good balance of $$$ and QOL. I agree that owning your own business is the only way to go to keep the balance and generate addtional income.

Tkr Toad, that was my only true point!!!! ALWAYS HAVE A BACK UP.

WD.

 

[johnny taliban]

As facinating as I have found this debate, may I suggest that someone PLEASE try and answer the original poster's question.

Johnny

 

[starchkr]

Nobody can answer the original posters question.... Because no-one knows what it is going to be. Sure there are lots of people specualting, but they all have no clue what is going on. I hope we are all surprised by their scale when it finally does come out...surprised that it will be competetive that is. Now i know some of you feeble minds will come back and tell us all how you "know" it will be much less than average, so go ahead, show your immaturity, we can all see it already anyways...I just think everyone is jumping to conclusions too quickly with out there being any evidence whatsoever as to what they will provide.

We will all have to wait and see.

 

[Rottweiller]

Like somebody else in this forum said......"Never do as a career what others do as a hobby." Whiskey just proved that in spades. He doesn't care about the salary, he just wants to "play" airline pilot, and have some fun.

Yep that's just about all he did to!

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Yep that's just about all he did to!

If you can't have fun then there ain't much point in doing it!!!!

WD.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

"Turn your head and cough...I mean gear up!!!"

"Like somebody else in this forum said......"Never do as a career what others do as a hobby." Whiskey just proved that in spades. He doesn't care about the salary, he just wants to "play" airline pilot."

I wouldn't say he doesn't care he has just planned for the worst.
And he's probably better off than you. Who's the smarter one?


My Flight Doc is a United 757 Capt. His United pay is a joke compared to his practice.

LOL!!

 

[AA717driver]

Believe me, I don't agree with the AA rates and I was one of the 31% who voted NO.

G4G5--You Radical! Apparently, you're just not a team player... TC