Virgin Awarded Love Field Gates

[bri5150]

I pretty sure they will be extended Bri, just like the ones that started ATL. Many of those are still in affect today. Hopefully Branson will step up for another cash infusion.

Another fi.com beautiful post. /sigh

 

[bri5150]

I pretty sure they will be extended Bri, just like the ones that started ATL. Many of those are still in affect today. Hopefully Branson will step up for another cash infusion.

Another beautiful fi.com post. /sigh

 

[scoreboardII]

Painful, yet accurate post.

If the VX model was a viable business model, wouldn't it already be raking in tons of cash?

 

[bri5150]

The business model may be viable, but the execution of said model has been less than stellar until the last year and a half. Mr. McCleod turned this place around within a couple months of being here. That is the biggest difference. At this point I pray that management doesn't lose labor's commitment to the product because that is the biggest part of our product...no matter who is to blame for this increasingly dysfunctional relationship.

 

[Flyer1015]

The business model may be viable, but the execution of said model has been less than stellar until the last year and a half. Mr. McCleod turned this place around within a couple months of being here. That is the biggest difference. At this point I pray that management doesn't lose labor's commitment to the product because that is the biggest part of our product...no matter who is to blame for this increasingly dysfunctional relationship.

What is that supposed to mean?

 

[scoreboardII]

The business model may be viable, but the execution of said model has been less than stellar until the last year and a half. Mr. McCleod turned this place around within a couple months of being here. That is the biggest difference. At this point I pray that management doesn't lose labor's commitment to the product because that is the biggest part of our product...no matter who is to blame for this increasingly dysfunctional relationship.

I think the reason VX turned around is capacity control and or reductions by everyone else, left some meet on the bone sts. Good luck though.

 

[bri5150]

What is that supposed to mean?

It means there are a lot of unhappy folks around VX...evidenced by the recent news of the inflight trying to organize as well as other things. I am not saying they should be happy, and I am not saying they will intentionally degrade their service. What I am saying is that unhappy employees will find it harder and harder to give the kind of service they have given in the past...that is just human nature. I worry that this unhappiness will degrade our product. Just a neutral statement of concern, no matter who is to blame.

 

[Flyer1015]

It means there are a lot of unhappy folks around VX...evidenced by the recent news of the inflight trying to organize as well as other things. I am not saying they should be happy, and I am not saying they will intentionally degrade their service. What I am saying is that unhappy employees will find it harder and harder to give the kind of service they have given in the past...that is just human nature. I worry that this unhappiness will degrade our product. Just a neutral statement of concern, no matter who is to blame.

Maybe they feel they aren't being treated in a manner that reflects what is expected from them. IMO, the ITM/Ls do a great job day in, day out. Good for them for having their union run. Why do you claim there are "unhappy folks" which is "evidenced by the news of trying to organize." ??? It's just business. They are being left off the table and the only way to gain a spot at the table is to organize. You sound like a no-vote for the pilot side.

Remember that one saying by a prominent CEO of one of the most successful airlines in this country? "Take care of employees, employees will take care of customers, customers will take care of the company and its investors."

 

[bri5150]

Maybe they feel they aren't being treated in a manner that reflects what is expected from them. IMO, the ITM/Ls do a great job day in, day out. Good for them for having their union run. Why do you claim there are "unhappy folks" which is "evidenced by the news of trying to organize." ??? It's just business. They are being left off the table and the only way to gain a spot at the table is to organize. You sound like a no-vote for the pilot side.

Remember that one saying by a prominent CEO of one of the most successful airlines in this country? "Take care of employees, employees will take care of customers, customers will take care of the company and its investors."

Not sure why you are trying to pick a fight with me by putting words in my mouth. Your response has nothing to do with my comments. I never said the ITM's don't do a great job. I said I worry it won't continue. Our ITM's work their arse off and don't get treated accordingly.

As far as my "happy" comments, I guess I assumed people would understand I meant with the company. Yes, the ITM's can be personally happy without being happy with the company. I am sorry I didn't clarify.

On all other points, I won't be baited into a union anti-union argument. Please don't put words in my mouth or make counterpoints to my posts that make it look like I am on one side or the other. My above comments are neutral and I will remain just that until it is time to vote.

 

[scoreboardII]

I don't equate unionizing with poor customer service or even a bad relationship with management. It's more a survival of the fittest mode if the shizzle hits the fan, do you want to enter chapter 7/11 or a merger unrepresented?

 

[Flyer1015]

Not sure why you are trying to pick a fight with me by putting words in my mouth. Your response has nothing to do with my comments. I never said the ITM's don't do a great job. I said I worry it won't continue. Our ITM's work their arse off and don't get treated accordingly.

As far as my "happy" comments, I guess I assumed people would understand I meant with the company. Yes, the ITM's can be personally happy without being happy with the company. I am sorry I didn't clarify.

On all other points, I won't be baited into a union anti-union argument. Please don't put words in my mouth or make counterpoints to my posts that make it look like I am on one side or the other. My above comments are neutral and I will remain just that until it is time to vote.

No fight. I maintain that unhappiness doesn't mean union run. As for what you are worried about, that blame shouldn't fall on the employees.

 

[bri5150]

No fight. I maintain that unhappiness doesn't mean union run. As for what you are worried about, that blame shouldn't fall on the employees.

Again putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about "blame".

 

[Tomct]

No tantrum Wave. You made it sound like you worked here and once you moved on....everyone Virgin was bad etc.

As far as the F/C thing...Yeah, it pisses me off and I don't like it! I want it changed as much as everyone else here...unfortunately we have a spineless CEO and he thinks the rule is fine. Imagine that! Although, I will say he doesn't even ride up there, but I still think it is pure crap that we are not allowed up there. Now I will say that it is usually full, so on that, I don't feel bad at all...it is our premium product and people pay good money for those seats. So fill them up!

Hopefully we will be unionizing as a pilot group in the not too distant future. We need to protect ourselves because we know that our mgmnt will only be looking out for themselves should there be a merger.

 

[waveflyer]

Fair enough