Virgin America

[Chairman]

Another tidbit of info to the original poster (who was looking for QOL-type info on VA before the thread turned into the usual Fubi vs. non-AS/non-union people):
I heard through the grapevine that new-hires will no longer be receiving A320 PIC type-ratings soon, if it's not happening already. To many it might not matter..to some it might be a deal-breaker perhaps for whatever reason.

Frankly, though VA has enjoyed a nice extended run of being able to be VERY picky..I think in the near future we'll be hiring 99% RJ pilots with little or no PIC and TT in the sub 4000 range (not that I'm saying that's bad).

FWIW...

Not true. What changed was when you went through training you did all of your training as flying pilot from the left seat. Now all training for FO's is done from the seat you will be flying. Everyone still gets typed just all training is in the right seat

 

[strobzz]

I'll help Fubi out with some facts. Alaska started flying in 1932 depending on whether you count the McGee Airlines name or only when it officially became Alaska Airlines In 1944. The pilots unionized in 1947 joining ALPA. SO Virgin is either a year behind Alaska or won't catch up to them for 11 years. I guess it depends on how you look at it.

Thank you DASHDRIVER,finally a simple answer that the "GRAND FUBI" just couldn`t seem to answer.

 

[EngineThunder]

Fubi is just embarassed that he got on at Alaska during the "B scale pay for B scale pilot" program. He lashes out at everyone, but say anything about Alaska and he will come unglued and almost stroke out.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Nice try, new Sacka, considering YOU can't get on at ANY airline. Even Gulftream won't let you PFT. Do you have a horn growing out of your head or something?

 

[EngineThunder]

Nice try, new Sacka, considering YOU can't get on at ANY airline. Even Gulftream won't let you PFT. Do you have a horn growing out of your head or something?

We hashed this out before. My challenger and little learjet, as you put it in the majors section, pays all the bills with plenty left over. I would guess my pay is within 20k of yours.

I even have time to work on the golf game. Got in 70 rounds this year. We were even playing yesterday here in the midwest. Pretty impressive for mid November.

 

[EngineThunder]

I actually looked up your pay rates. Instead of 20k, make it within 8k of your salary. 8 seats versus 120+ seats but the same pay. Why would I want to give that up to come to the airlines again??

 

[Fubijaakr]

Me thinks the lady doth protest TOO much, new Sacka.

 

[EngineThunder]

Me thinks the lady doth protest TOO much, new Sacka.

ROTFLMAO. Right back at u Fubi.

 

[zonejumper]

So, "ET," I wonder when Sacka is going to chime in and say how pissed he is at you for stealing ALL his old material. Shouldn't be long now, since he sure is a cranky, no sense of humor, old son-of-a-bitch. :smash:

 

[EngineThunder]

So, "ET," I wonder when Sacka is going to chime in and say how pissed he is at you for stealing ALL his old material. Shouldn't be long now, since he sure is a cranky, no sense of humor, old son-of-a-bitch. :smash:

He has all but disappeared. I thought he got suspended or something. His posts to you were way out of line, btw. I guess there are no more moderators so who knows?

 

[Fubijaakr]

Disappeared as Sacka, reappeared as Engine Thunder. I guess when you're act gets old with this screen name you probably have another ready to go.

Guess we'll just call you Sybil.

 

[EngineThunder]

Disappeared as Sacka, reappeared as Engine Thunder. I guess when you're act gets old with this screen name you probably have another ready to go.

Guess we'll just call you Sybil.

Man up then and put your money on the line. Don't let my 2005 start date on here get in the way. That must be one hell of a crystal ball he had back in 2005, knowing that these posts would occur in 2011. Don't turn in those pilot wings for a detective badge anytime soon. $1,000 bet still stands. You are great at talking the talk, it's backing it up that is making you look like a coward.

Did you ever pay SWA Bubba the $100 you owe him? Thought so.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Wow, obsessed much, new Sacka? You should look into some counseling.

 

[EngineThunder]

Wow, obsessed much, new Sacka? You should look into some counseling.

This from the guy who puts his one cent in on every thread. Adios fubi.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

Not true. What changed was when you went through training you did all of your training as flying pilot from the left seat. Now all training for FO's is done from the seat you will be flying. Everyone still gets typed just all training is in the right seat

Glad the guy that told me that was apparently mistaken.

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

Clearly Fubi is an anglophile. He cannot be part of the Virgin culture so he distances himself by pretending he is an angry ALPA prophet with the disdain of any company that is non-union. Clearly his distaste for Virgin employees displays that he is really in a love/hate relationship. He cannot commit to his admiration for all thing british, so his only logical recourse is one of open public distain. So I say this to you fellow FIers, anytime FUBI slants anything Virgin he is clearly praising it openly. Who knew a psych minor would provide so much entertainment. Cheers!

 

[ttuite]

Glad the guy that told me that was apparently mistaken.

He may not be. I am not familiar with how you can obtain a PIC type rating in the right seat. I can be wrong but I believe that you would only have a SIC type which is valueless.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

He may not be. I am not familiar with how you can obtain a PIC type rating in the right seat. I can be wrong but I believe that you would only have a SIC type which is valueless.

PIC/SIC is not seat specific, nor seat limiting as long as seat dependent training is provided and documented. A number of airlines do this and it is certainly the norm for most fleets at Delta for example.

Type rating FOs in their proper seat without the SIC restriction is far from out of the ordinary.

 

[pilotpm]

PIC/SIC is not seat specific, nor seat limiting as long as seat dependent training is provided and documented. A number of airlines do this and it is certainly the norm for most fleets at Delta for example.

Type rating FOs in their proper seat without the SIC restriction is far from out of the ordinary.

Very true. I got my 757/767 type in the right seat at ATA. Later only had to do a PC when I upgraded to Captain.

 

[strobzz]

He may not be. I am not familiar with how you can obtain a PIC type rating in the right seat. I can be wrong but I believe that you would only have a SIC type which is valueless.

Back a couple of years ago,most of Europe requiered all pilots from the U.S. have a SIC type.It was just a paper work formality,but I witnessed a few times where guys would tell you they where typed in a certain airplane.It sounded good...