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Virgin America posts 2012 loss; eyes possible IPO
The Associated Press9:41 a.m. EDT May 13, 2013

Virgin America said it's close to turning around its financial losses and could be ready for an initial public offering as early as next year.
The airline reported another annual loss on Monday, but it's aiming for a profit in the second half of the year after reworking debt it owes to Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Group and others. The improved finances should be one step on its way toward a public offering in late 2014 or in 2015, CEO David Cush said in an interview.
A share offering would be a way for Virgin Group and other shareholders to recoup some of their investments, Cush said. Virgin America, based in Burlingame, California, is privately held but reports its finances as part of financial disclosures required by the U.S. Transportation Department.
On Monday the airline said its 2012 net loss jumped 45% to $145.4 million. Virgin America started flying in 2007 but has not turned an annual profit.
It posted a fourth-quarter loss of $25 million, an improvement from its loss of $30.8 million a year earlier. In the first quarter of this year it lost $46.4 million, an improvement from its $76 million loss during the same period last year.
Full-year revenue rose 29 percent to $1.33 billion.
Virgin America has already deferred deliveries of new planes until 2015. Stopping its growth is a key part of making the airline profitable, Cush said.
It's also cutting interest payments.
Virgin America recently closed a deal that eliminates $290 million in debt, a majority of it owed to Virgin Group, Cush said. The debt was converted to "conditional equity," he said.
The U.S. caps foreign ownership of U.S. airlines at 25%. Cush said the debt transaction keeps its foreign ownership under that threshold and was approved by the Transportation Department. Discussion about reworking the debt began about six months ago, at the same time it was talking about delaying its aircraft deliveries. "We were certainly interested in doing it, but ultimately it was the call of the debt holders and the shareholders," he said.
Cush said it's too soon to know how much of the company might be offered to the public. It will depend on how well Virgin America is doing financially, how receptive investors are, and how much the current private shareholders are willing to sell.
First, though, it needs to fix its finances.
"People are going to want to see some profit" before they decide how much Virgin America is worth, he said

http://www.usatoday.com/story/today...ca-posts-2012-loss-eyes-possible-ipo/2155005/
 
Valid point; I assumed that the $75 million financing was in either Q4 or Q1. If it was in Q2, the Q4 and Q1 numbers are great.

If the money was received in Q2, the cash burn was only $17 million for the two quarters which would be a great turnaround from the past.

From Bloomberg

"Virgin America also borrowed an additional $75 million after the first quarter ended, said Chief Financial Officer Peter Hunt"
 
Correct, the 75 million is new after the first quarter.

Andy, can you comment on debt restructuring? How does one wipe out nearly 1/3 billion in debt? Was it just a lower interest rate now?

and what's this part:

Virgin America recently closed a deal that eliminates $290 million in debt, a majority of it owed to Virgin Group, Cush said. The debt was converted to "conditional equity," he said.
??? Conversion to conditional equity?
 
Gotta Love it

Branson eats 290 mil for " conditional equity " and someone loans you 75 mil to boost cash on hand..

That " SHOULD " be illegal

What law is that breaking to be illegal?

It's his money. If I loan you money, at a certain rate, I can then lower your rate and you'd owe me less. Who's gonna argue against that?
 
From Bloomberg

"Virgin America also borrowed an additional $75 million after the first quarter ended, said Chief Financial Officer Peter Hunt"

Peter Hunt doesn't have a reputation for being honest. It could be that a lot of that $75 million was informally loaned to VX prior to the end of Q1. I don't know and I don't trust Hunt.
I do find it almost impossible that VX could increase cash on hand by $1 million in Q4 with a net loss.
I'm thinking that VX did a bridge loan prior to the $75 million loan, and simply used a large part of the $75 million to pay off the bridge loan.

Andy, can you comment on debt restructuring? How does one wipe out nearly 1/3 billion in debt? Was it just a lower interest rate now?

and what's this part:


??? Conversion to conditional equity?

It sounds like a debt to equity conversion where debtholders were converted to stockholders. And it's likely that only the Virgin Group did that. Hence the 'conditional equity'.
The reason why it's labeled conditional equity is due to the 25% limitation of stock owned by foreign interests. But if you dig a bit deeper in that rule, you'll find that it's 25% voting stock limit to foreigners. So the new stock holdings of Virgin Group is almost certainly nonvoting stock. That's much less valuable stock and there's probably a provision where the stock magically becomes voting stock when sold by Virgin Group.

The devil's in the details and I'll comment further once I have a chance to look at the VX form 41.


The timing of the $75 million loan doesn't make sense. $49 million cash on hand is enough to get through the summer without a problem, especially if losses in Q4 and Q1 total $18 million. Q2 and Q3 are VX's best quarters. That's why I think that a large part of the $75 million was added to the balance sheet prior to the close of Q1. But I really can't prove that until Q2's numbers are released and we can see cash on hand.

In closing, I think I stated that VX would need around $100 million to keep its doors open past 2013. I consider the $75 million to be 'close enough'. If there's an extra $75 million that shows up on Q2's cash on hand, they'll have no problem getting well beyond 2013 and could pull off an IPO after a few decent quarters.
 
IPO is about growth potential. If Virgin can show consistent profits while fending off attacks from the mega carriers, then VA really has unlimited growth opportunities. Virgin has moved into some of the hardest fought territory in the US. We are not a Spirit or Allegiant that has found niche markets. We are not a Southwest that grew by flying into secondary airports. Virgin goes right into a major hub and offers a better experience for the customer. If we can do Chicago, Dallas, and Newark profitably, what's going to stop us from going into Atlanta, Denver, Charlotte, Minneapolis, etc... United is throwing everything at us in Newark and our planes are still full. Last time I flew to Newark, I had 10 guests tell me as they de-planed that this was the best flight they had ever been on and they never want to fly the competition again. We are the In and Out Burger/Trader Joe's of the airlines. In the Bay Area and LA people rave about us. Moral here is through the roof. Our FAs are young and happy and cost half as much as a legacy FA -- same could be said about our gate agents. What other airline has this much potential for growth?
 

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