ThomasR said:
If you were ATP contact when lost com. occures you are still radar contact and able to land via light signal or clearance via nav. radio. If you are outside of ATC continue on to destination as planned.
Where in my tower can I clear you to land over a Navaid? Sorry, that isn't an option. If outside ATC continue to destination as planned. ----Yeah, if IFR conditions prevail, if not land at an uncontrolled field. I believe thats in 91.185
(b) VFR conditions. If the failure occurs in VFR conditions, or if VFR conditions are encountered after the failure, each pilot shall continue the flight under VFR and land as soon as practicable. ----that means at the nearest airport, not necessarly the destination!
Section 91.131: Operations in Class B airspace.
(a) Operating rules. No person may operate an aircraft within a Class B airspace area except in compliance with Sec.
91.129 and the following rules:
(1) The operator must receive an ATC clearance from the ATC facility having jurisdiction for that area before operating an aircraft in that area.
c) Communications and navigation equipment requirements. Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, no person may operate an aircraft within a Class B airspace area unless that aircraft is equipped with--
(1) For IFR operation. An operable VOR or TACAN receiver; and
(2) For all operations. An operable two-way radio capable of communications with ATC on appropriate frequencies for that Class B airspace area.
---no radio, no clearance, DONT ENTER!
Section 91.130: Operations in Class C airspace.
(c) Communications. Each person operating an aircraft in Class C airspace must meet the following two-way radio communications requirements:
(1)
Arrival or through flight. Each person must establish two-way radio communications with the ATC facility (including foreign ATC in the case of foreign airspace designated in the United States) providing air traffic services prior to entering that airspace and thereafter maintain those communications while within that airspace.
---you can't hear them, they can't hear you hence they didn't acknowledge you existed, you are in violation of FAR's if you proceed into a class C and land. Even if you do get a light gun.
Section 91.129: Operations in Class D airspace.
c) Communications. Each person operating an aircraft in Class D airspace must meet the following two-way radio communications requirements:
(1) Arrival or through flight. Each person must establish two-way radio communications with the ATC facility (including foreign ATC in the case of foreign airspace designated in the United States) providing air traffic services prior to entering that airspace and thereafter maintain those communications while within that airspace.
---sounds the same as a Class C to me.
IFR rules are a bit different. But even if your IFR in VMC conditions, your still expected to land as soon as possible. If your in your Citation and the radio goes out 10 minutes after takeoff and you follow 91.185 and its VFR conditions, you are expected to maintain VFR from that point and land as soon as practical. Not climb up to 410 cause you were told to expect it in 10 minutes and continue 1500nm to your destination because you can. Thats if its IMC.
91.185
(b) VFR conditions. If the failure occurs in VFR conditions, or if VFR conditions are encountered after the failure, each pilot shall continue the flight under VFR and land as soon as practicable. ----that means at the nearest airport, not necessarly the destination!