Vanity Fair article on the GOL 737 and Legacy mid-air

[wmuflyguy]

I think he was talking about business jets in general being questionable.

Then he is an even bigger idiot.

 

[Axel]

Tree hugger.

It's in the article early on. Very critical of the concept of a biz-jet in reference to the environment. He is offended by the very existence of any biz-jet.

The Legacy occupies a position toward the high end of private jets—among airplanes like Gulfstreams, Challengers, and Falcons—which by political, ethical, and environmental measures are abhorrent creations, but which nonetheless are masterworks of personal transportation. The Legacy weighs 50,000 pounds fully loaded, and is powered by twin Rolls-Royce turbofan engines mounted aft against the fuselage, delivering a total of 16,000 pounds of thrust at a price to the atmosphere and global oil reserves of about 300 gallons an hour.

I wonder if the two Falcons his employer, Vanity Fair, operates out of GSO are also abhorrent.

 

[Hamburger]

Get Off of My Lawn!!!

Those who flew for PanAm, TWA and the like 40 or more years ago would be grossly appalled at the lack of skills these two possessed (the Legacy crew).

Third world controllers manage to get two airplanes in the same piece of sky and they hit each other. These guys got a crippled plane on the ground in the middle of the Amazon and save everyone on board. What an appalling lack of skills. Yeah.

If only they were more like those infallible, superhuman old school PanAm and TWA guys.

I'm sure the crews of PanAm flights 806 (CFIT), flight 812 (Failed cross check in Bali), Flight 845 (set the bugs wrong), flights 759 and 214 (flew into thunderstorms) and flight 151(unauthorized descent below minimums) are spinning in their graves over the appalling lack of skills displayed by these guys who got the plane on the ground.
Let's not forget Tenerife. No breakdown in the chain there, right?

How about the amazing old school omniscience at TWA? Flights 3,128, and 514 are CFIT. Flights 2 and 266 are MIDAIRS that didn't make it to a runway. Hikers call it the 'TWA Canyon' now after flight 260.

You're just another in a centuries long line of losers that refuses to let facts and common sense get in the way of making irrational, ridiculous claims that people who happened to be alive in the "good old days" are somehow superior to those who happen to have not had the unbelievable honor of being born then.

 

[SBD]

I don't know if anyone saw the piece on 20/20 about a week ago about this incident. It was interesting to say the least. I'll try to get a linky.

 

[Fernando]

Third world controllers manage to get two airplanes in the same piece of sky and they hit each other. These guys got a crippled plane on the ground in the middle of the Amazon and save everyone on board. What an appalling lack of skills. Yeah.

You forget to mention that this was with the help of the 1st world pilots that turned the transponder off right?

 

[j-3]

I don't think they intentionally turned the transponder OFF.

About 1:26 from the beginning of the tape they talk about the transponder.

N600XL:
Dude do you have the TCAS on?
Yes, the TCAS is OFF.

 

[Wanderlust]

I was impressed with the article. Well written, technically accurate. I don't think he's demonizing these guys, just writing frankly about the incident. And I have to agree, as much as I'd like to fly one, bizjets are abhorrent most of the time.

 

[BoilerUP]

And I have to agree, as much as I'd like to fly one, bizjets are abhorrent most of the time.

Explain yourself.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Good article. Excellent example of how it takes of a chain of events

 

[Abernathy]

I think the article is for the most part OK. I just think it's in the wrong magazine.

 

[j-3]

There are 5 videos, this one is Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbhwVLBZbYE

 

[172driver]

I was impressed with the article. Well written, technically accurate. I don't think he's demonizing these guys, just writing frankly about the incident. And I have to agree, as much as I'd like to fly one, bizjets are abhorrent most of the time.

WTF are you talking about? What's abhorrent is the state of the airline industry. It's like some horrible form of torture to have to ride on them, even in first class. Believe me, I did it for 14 hrs yesterday.

 

[Wanderlust]

I think it's a sign that something's terribly wrong with our economy when airlines are going bankrupt and parking their jets, and corporations are buying them as executive limousines. You guys don't find that abhorrent, especially when said corporations are announcing layoffs?

 

[Wanderlust]

I think the article is for the most part OK. I just think it's in the wrong magazine.

Why is it the wrong magazine? Do you ever read it?

 

[regionaltard]

No magazine that has pictures of partially clad women is the wrong magazine. Ever.