V-22 Osprey cannot fly in ice

[satpak77]

I suppose if we go to war, the theatre better be non-ice or maybe we can start the war in the summer.

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_003878.php

 

[Flying Illini]

it seems like the only news you ever hear about the osprey is bad news. That bird has had setback after setback.

 

[propsarebest]

GROUND IT
BUY MORE H-53's

 

[gnx99]

What a piece of garbage.... We want our $15+ billion dollars back.

 

[bobs98tlr]

GROUND IT
BUY MORE H-53's

Isnt that the freakin truth...wtf is going on. Isnt the 53 like 1/3 of the cost and can carry 2x the amout of weight as the V-22? I know its something like that just not sure what..plus the 53 is a proven airframe which the military is big on.

 

[Wasted]

A "condensation stall" eh? Can somebody explain to me what a "condensation stall" is? People need to realize POGO is one of those groups with an agenda. This POGO reported was balanced out with some facts in the 10/31/05 issue of Aviation Week.

The basis of this report was a CV-22 on a ferry flight had suffered compressor stalling while in icing conditions. The engines cycled up and down several times. After the power fluctuations, the crew elected to make a precautionary landing. At no point did the engines "stall" or "fail." The CV-22 did have anti-icing systems installed, but they were not operational as testing on those systems has not been completed yet.

The aircraft (CV06) was at FL180 over Prescott, AZ when it encountered icing conditions and accumulated ice around the engine inlets. When the ice broke free and was ingested, the engines surged up and down. The aircraft did not stall or lose power and did not drop to 10,000'. After landing, the aircraft was found to have superficial damage on the tail and damaged first stage compressor blades.

 

[Jafar]

That stupid thing has been in the making for 30 years. The Marine Corps is obsessed with this VSTOL business, despite the fact that it has never been decisive in combat for them. We used to ride around in Vietnam era 46's while money was being flushed down the toilet on this turd. The Harrier is another prime example. Nearly half of the AV-8's the Corps has bought have crashed. It has killed 57 Marine officers since it entered service. Hopefully F-35B will prove to be worth it's cost, but V-22 is a waste of sperm.

 

[satpak77]

more info

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2005/10/pogo-takes-aim-at-v22-osprey/index.php

 

[FN FAL]

What a piece of garbage.... We want our $15+ billion dollars back.

Hahaha...don't let FedEx find out it can't fly in ICE! They might just buy a bunch of them and figure them into the feeder flying.

Just kidding :nuts:

 

[Traderd]

I suppose if we go to war, the theatre better be non-ice or maybe we can start the war in the summer.

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_003878.php

Any info or opinions on whether the civilian side of the tilt rotor experiment will ever make a go if it? Commercially that is; I realize they have already flown.

http://www.bellagusta.com/air_ba_main.cfm

 

[satpak77]

I doubt it....civ industry prob wait till they are in full operational use by military for few years.

but thats just my take

 

[flyboyzz1]

We don't need to worry about the ice in the desert!

 

[siucavflight]

We don't need to worry about the ice in the desert!

Except for in winter.

 

[FN FAL]

We don't need to worry about the ice in the desert!

There's no desert in North Korea, that's just crazy talk.

 

[satpak77]

We don't need to worry about the ice in the desert!

i suppose we shouldnt worry about it when we need to GET to the desert also, or to defend against a domestic invasion or some other "out of the box" scenario that is not already perfectly predicted by Masters in Poli-Sci grads at the CIA

"Mobilize the V-22 unit at Quantico/Oceana/Elmendorf/Dover/Etc! We have ________ major incident happening"

Sir, its freezing drizzle out and its snowing in the vicinity

"Cancel my last, the ______ major incident can wait, tell the _______ (insert name of Hurricane, enemy military force, terrorist group) to hold off due to WX"

 

[ultrarunner]

I suppose if we go to war, the theatre better be non-ice or maybe we can start the war in the summer.


I suppose we can start any war and at time and in any theatre. Needed or not...it's what we do....

 

[satpak77]

I suppose if we go to war, the theatre better be non-ice or maybe we can start the war in the summer.


I suppose we can start any war and at time and in any theatre. Needed or not...it's what we do....

hopefully we don't need the V-22 when winter hits

 

[flyboyzz1]

take a joke!

 

[satpak77]

take a joke!

I am joking!

 

[414Flyer]

I was surprised to see a V-22 flying down the valley here in northern NM. i heard it well before i saw it.

It was flying low and slow, did a low approach over the nearby runway and kept going