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Would you say that a top priority for a "real union" is to get equal pay for equal work? So why is it that one part of the pilot group makes 15% more than the other group - and the group that makes more has done nothing to correct that when we all work for the same airline?

Metrojet

You've got to be kidding me!

One part of the group makes less because they willingly (and in breach of the TA) pulled out of joint negotiations in order to put a road block in front of the Nicolau list.

The only path to parity and payraises is from a joint contract. That reality is no different under USAPA as it was with ALPA. The Nicolau list has always been and will always be part of that reality as well.

 

[Deadalus]

becket or is this Suzie from the crew news session on 7/8?

Either way, you need to chill. Its just a job and the hamas tactics will not get you group squat. The EAST will out number you even more due to the furloughs coming your way. So things are not looking good for non union pilots.
With the nic list you would see west pilots displacing east pilots in their bases. Very low yields in PHX and LAS hence the downsizing.

I am glad that we remain separate. I do not want anything to do we hate filled workers that want to take away our jobs. Permanent fences and the west can have your Nic.

Marty[/quote

Hamas tactics? Who's the idiot group that has the mentality of a suicide bomber? Get a clue.

 

[becket]

Marty/Metrojet,

Here is your seniority, it's in California not Arizona. Do these look familiar? They should. What a pathetic airline. You accepted recall to this? I'm embarrassed for you.



http://www.airliners.net/photo/USAir/Boeing-737-3B7/0310573/L/&tbl=photo_info&photo_nr=5&sok=keyword_(%5C%27%2B%5C%22usairways%5C%22_%2B%5C%22mojave%5C%22%5C%27_IN_BOOLEAN_MODE))_&sort=_order_by_photo_id_DESC_&prev_id=0328255&next_id=NEXTID

 

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There is talk about this on Larry King Live

 

[JT8D]

Marty/Metrojet,

Here is your seniority, it's in California not Arizona. Do these look familiar? They should. What a pathetic airline. You accepted recall to this? I'm embarrassed for you.



http://www.airliners.net/photo/USAi...photo_id_DESC_&prev_id=0328255&next_id=NEXTID

And here is yours:

HP747


Yep that's an AWA 747 rotting in the desert. Why don't you give us the play by play of how the America West wide body program went?

I'm all ears...

 

[m80drvr]

By the way.

I'm watching Larry King right now and it is nice to see USAPA has now aired USAirways dirty laundry to the world. The story makes it look like we are not safe.

Great JOB. DRIVE MORE PAX AWAY.

What a bunch of tools.

 

[becket]

And here is yours:

HP747


Yep that's an AWA 747 rotting in the desert. Why don't you give us the play by play of how the America West wide body program went?

I'm all ears...

Good one. One jet from the Early 90's to literally hundreds of jets from post 9-11. Very powerful rebuttal. One 747 compared to god knows how many: Dc-9s, MD-80s, 737 300/400s, Fokker 100's. Well played sir...However, I'm still embarrassed for you and your chronically ill regional.

 

[Way2Broke]

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[JT8D]

Good one. One jet from the Early 90's to literally hundreds of jets from post 9-11. Very powerful rebuttal. One 747 compared to god knows how many: Dc-9s, MD-80s, 737 300/400s, Fokker 100's. Well played sir...However, I'm still embarrassed for you and your chronically ill regional.

They didn't have one 747...they had FOUR. HP was desperately trying to distance itself from what they in fact were...a low cost regional.

It didn't work:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_West_Airlines


In 1989, the airline leased four Boeing 747 aircraft (formerly operated by KLM), offering service to Hawaii and Nagoya, Japan, as well as an expansion of service to many Mexican destinations.
In 1990, the airline moved into the new Terminal 4 and also took the delivery of several Airbus A320 aircraft that were destined for the now-defunct Braniff Airways. The A320s were sold to America West at a steep discount. Braniff had assumed the Airbus A320 order after purchasing the original order rights from Pan Am, another troubled carrier.
Despite these developments, the airline continued to lose money. The operating expenses at the new Terminal 4 were much higher than previous expenses in Terminal 3's temporary concourse. The Nagoya, Japan route was essentially a bust (the planes were flying with almost no passengers), with extremely low ticket sales. Finally, concerns about stability in the Gulf States in the lead-up to the Persian Gulf War lead to increasing fuel costs. This combination forced America West to file for bankruptcy in June 1991.

 

[becket]

My bad. I forgot to mention the dozens upon dozens of 737-200s that are also parked. Remember metrojet? it's getting a sunburn in the desert for the rest of eternity.