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USAPA thinks it can control ALL jumpseats in US

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m80drvr

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Here is a cut and paste from the TRO. You will notice that USAPA it trying to take away the captains authority for jumpseats FROM EVERY COMMERCIAL OPERATOR IN THE USA. See Item Number 3

That's right, USAPA thinks it can force UAL, SWA CAL, AAA...........captains to take then in the jumpseat.


This is absolutely mind blowing. After this gets out I'm sure it will be even worse for their commuters.

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WHEREFORE, Plaintiff prays that this Court grant its Motions for Temporary Restraining Order and Preliminary Injunction, and:
I. Issue a Declaratory Judgment that the actions complained of herein are unlawful, and;
II. Issue a Temporary Restraining Order, lasting in duration from the date of the Order until the earlier of either ten (10) days from the Order or until a hearing upon Plaintiff’s Motion for a Preliminary Injunction is held, that orders all Defendants, and any of their officers, agents, or employees, be prohibited from the acts listed in ¶ III below, and;
III. Issue a Preliminary Injunction, the same to be made permanent on final judgment, that orders all Defendants, and any of their officers, agents, or employees, be prohibited from the following acts:
1. From making, sending, or causing to be sent telephone calls to any of USAPA’s telephone numbers, including or any "Safety Hotline" telephone
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number, that are frivolous in quality or quantity, or that are knowingly false, or that needlessly contain indecent and profane language, and that are either intended to, or have the effect of, imposing burden and cost on the resources of said telephone lines or on USAPA;

2. From making, sending, or causing to be sent e-mails or other electronic transmissions to any USAPA or USAPA officer’s e-mail addresses that are frivolous in quality or quantity, or that are knowingly false, or that needlessly contain indecent and profane language, and that are either intended to, or have the effect of, imposing burden and cost on the resources of said USAPA or its officers;

3. From denying, conspiring to deny, or instigating denial of, access to "jump seats" on aircraft operated by any commercial carrier because of suspected membership in, or support of, USAPA, or status as an "East pilot," or because of any pretextual excuse to hide such anti-USAPA animus, or animus against East pilots;

4. From conveying or communicating personal threats of retaliation against the safety of individual pilot-employees of US Airways, or engaging in telephonic or other unlawful harassment, in order to prevent, deter or intimidate them from paying membership dues to USAPA or from paying non-membership agency fees required by law;

5. From making, sending, or causing to be sent e-mails using altered e-mail addresses falsely attributed to be, or appear nearly identical to, e-mail addresses employed by USAPA officers;

6. From causing or arranging USAPA officer’s e-mail addresses to be subscribed to internet web or e-mail subscriptions, whether of an adult nature or not, without their knowledge and permission;

7. From sending, or causing to be sent, injurious articles or other nonmailable matter to USAPA or USAPA’s officers through the U.S. Postal Service, or deceptive use of the U.S. Mail in order to impose, or which has the effect of imposing, unnecessary costs on USAPA, or from other unlawful abuse of the U.S. Postal Service designed to sabotage USAPA’s operations.

8. From taking, or conspiring to take, concerted action designed to tortiously interfere with US Airways’ contractual obligations to USAPA under Section 29 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, provided that no party shall be enjoined from filing an appropriate grievance under the contractual grievance procedures




Note to every flight crew in America. USAPA thinks they can run your airline into the ground also. They believe that YOUR jumpseat is THEIR god given right. They think they have the ability to tell YOU who can and cannot fly on your jumpseat. UNFRIGGING BELIEVABLE!!
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Kinda ironic that they would take that approach since they were right in the fray with numerous other carriers to deny the CAL scabs the jumpseat in the past. :laugh:
 
Kinda ironic that they would take that approach since they were right in the fray with numerous other carriers to deny the CAL scabs the jumpseat in the past. :laugh:

CAL, welcome ANYTIME usappy NEVER!!!!:angryfire

WD.
 
Have many people been denying the Airways guys jumpseats. I thought it was just an in-house thing. It sounds like they are circling the drain fast. This industry is great isn't it.
 
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You need to ban this user. Constant name calling, using the term scab in almost every post.
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Com'on weasel don't hate, the shoe fits you soo well!! But do like the rest of your kind does and sue or cry to the mods but no matter what you or your ussapy friends attempt the smell will never wash off of you;)

WD.
 
Kinda ironic that they would take that approach since they were right in the fray with numerous other carriers to deny the CAL scabs the jumpseat in the past. :laugh:

Well said, over the years it's not like USAir guys never turned down a jumpseater because of who he flew for. What a flaming bunch of idiots.
 
I guess when you think about it, what would you expect from a group of pilots that think the whole world revolves around them.
 
Red Herring Alert!!!

:smash: Disinformation Warning!!!

Ya know, sounds to me like a west guy is bent out of shape about something, since the cut and paste neatly avoided the list of defendants!

Let me guess, the defendants are the people, property and corporation formerly known as America West?

They aren't trying to take control of everyone's jumpseats, children-they are trying to keep someone else (from out in the desert I would guess) from taking them away!

What a sham of a smokescreen! Saw right through it, cactus, I'm not Airways, but I've been around the patch a couple of times and you're really going to have to do alot better...you should be ashamed of yourself! In fact I would be given to wonder how you could survive a night out with the crew-perhaps you are a slamclicker!

If you take the time to read the thing and understand the egregious verbosity of the leagaleese you would understand that the injunction is against the following:

III. Issue a Preliminary Injunction, the same to be made permanent on final judgment, that orders all Defendants, and any of their officers, agents, or employees, be prohibited from the following acts:

Ah, there's that Defendant word...perhaps America West methinks.

3. From denying, conspiring to deny, or instigating denial of, access to "jump seats" on aircraft operated by any commercial carrierbecause of suspected membership in, or support of, USAPA, or status as an "East pilot," or because of any pretextual excuse to hide such anti-USAPA animus, or animus against East pilots;

Perhaps west pilots control the Jumpseat committee...

Perhaps west pilots are childlishly denying jumpseats to east pilots. Perhaps west pilots are making comments like the one I saw earlier "uscaba" and "those east guys shouldn't be getting a ride on aaa" while sitting in the cockpit of an aaa airplane.

What this is really saying is that "West pilots are not to interfear with East pilots jumpseat travel"

It's really not that hard to understand...unless you like the desert I guess.

Well, I tell you what. One of the two people that denyed me a jumpseat pre-911 was an America West pilot. I have never had a problem with any of the US Air crews. They've put my wife and I in First Class, done anything they could to accomodate me when I was jumpseating. Even some of the Airways gate agents have gone out of their way for me.

I've had a great time with the East guys and if you guys from out west have a problem, too bad. Any old US Air/Airways/Piedmont or whomever, you're welcome aboard as long as I have anything to say about it!
 
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