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USAPA demands apology and votes no confidence against pilots

MK82Man

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USAPA 9 Sept 08

The Board of Pilot Representatives, BPR, passed unanimously:

Resolution: Formal Apology to the 8 Effected Pilots & Closure on Captain's Authority Regarding Management's Failed Attempt at Fuel Conservation Training

WHEREAS Management Pilots attempted to intimidate all of our Pilots by attacking Captain’s Authority and forcing 8 of our most Senior International Pilots to attend “Fuel Conservation Training”, &

all 8 of the pilots selected for “training” are exemplary employees, with untarnished records, clean files and included past and present line check airman, &

this "training" was to include a mandated simulator pre-brief training session, as well as an actual simulator session, both under the pretense that the goal of the “training” was to collect data as to why the Pilots requested additional fuel for a percentage of their flights, &

this supposed "Fuel Conservation Training" was not a joint effort by the US Airways Flight Training Department and USAPA, as to content or purpose, nor was the appropriateness of the training syllabus given any consideration to the inclusion of USAPA’s Training or Safety Committees for feedback regarding the supposed syllabus for this training, &

this supposed "Fuel Conservation Training" did not fall under any of the parameters in our FAA approved "AQP Training," and was instead solely utilized as a disciplinary event, with the added written threat of termination if they chose not to participate in the “training”, &

the US Airways Director of Training, Captain Skinner, allowed an ill-conceived, totally inappropriate & ineffective training protocol to be administered under his direction & within the US Airways training facility, thereby abrogating our AQP philosophy of mutual respect for the training environment and any conceptual considerations for standardization, &

Captain Hogg notified the last of the 8 senior pilots that he would not attend the Fuel Conservation Training because Management had collected all of the "data" that they needed from the first 7 disciplinary training events, &

this statement by Captain Hogg was an outright lie as no pertinent data concerning the flights of the first 7 pilots was ever “collected”, presented or reviewed as verified by USAPA, demonstrating Management’s intention from the start &

Captain Skinner, at a Check Airman's meeting, already publicly apologized to Captain Manfredi for the way that this situation was handled, &

Management selected these 8 Senior International Pilots to make “examples of”, for the purpose of intimidation and influence over our entire pilot group,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED the BPR hereby directs President Steve Bradford, to contact CEO Doug Parker, & demand that a letter of apology, signed by the Management Pilots (Captain Bular, Captain Hogg, Captain Corbusier, Captain Stawnychy, Captain Skinner and Captain Pate) who had a role in this inept & arrogant venture, is overdue & expected immediately, & that the said letter shall be sent via certified mail to each of these pilots’ homes as well as having a certified copy placed into these pilots’ permanent employment files, &

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the BPR directs the USAPA Officers as well as the Safety and Training Committees, to inform the pilots of US Airways along with the attendees of the 2009 Industry AQP conference to be hosted by US Airways, of our management's total disregard of the AQP philosophy of mutual respect for the training environment, &

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Company's Senior Management Pilot, or his designee, sign a statement of promise that at no time in the future will a covert means of data collection ever be used to discipline our Pilots in any manner, &

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the BPR state that a "Vote of No Confidence” be issued for the following Pilot Managers who were directly involved in this ill-advised Fuel Training Event:

Captain Bular, Senior VP, Flight Operations/Inflight:
  • For refusing to allow any compromise for these 8 pilots and for knowingly lying about the conditions surrounding these events.
  • For never asking “Why” these pilots requested additional fuel.
  • For refusing to allow USAPA observers for 2 of our Captains in their simulator events.
  • For refusing to make available to USAPA the data supposedly collected to indict these eight pilots.
  • For his attack on our Pilot’s character and professionalism and their Captain’s Authority as granted by Federal Aviation Regulations.
Captain Hogg, VP, Flight Operations:
  • For knowingly lying about the conditions surrounding these events.
  • For refusing to present the requested data to USAPA.
  • For misrepresenting to Captain Clark as to why his session had been canceled.
  • For obstructing USAPA’s attempt to keep these Pilots out of this simulator event.
Captain Skinner, Managing Director Flight Training & Standards:
  • For allowing this disciplinary fuel training event to be allowed into the Training Department, and for subjugating Check Airmen & IP’s to participate in events that they may not have agreed with.
  • For allowing this program to proceed with no syllabus, guidance or standardization.
  • For refusing to allow observers into the training event.
  • For ignoring the tenets of AQP in this ill-advised program.
  • For distributing propaganda against the pilot group and USAPA on “The Hub”..
  • For refusing to cooperate with the Safety & Training Committees of USAPA.
Captain Corbusier, PHL Chief Pilot Domestic:
  • For creating the program secretly based upon the covertly gathered “Captains’ Fuel Report.”
  • For collecting covert data on these pilots for more than 15 months.
  • For selecting 8 Line Captains to undergo an inept “Fuel Conservation Program.”
  • For initially refusing USAPA’s request to allow observers in these sessions.
  • For his involvement in ignoring our AQP program at US Airways.
Captain Stawnychy, PHL Chief Pilot International:
  • For not including USAPA in his decision-making on this issue.
  • For not speaking to these 8 pilots to communicate the meaning of the program.
  • For threatening these pilots with discipline, up to and including termination, in letters signed and sent to their homes via certified mail.
Captain Pate, CLT Chief Pilot:
  • For taking a stand to “not get involved” even though he did sign and send a letter to his pilot, under his direction, with the threat of discipline, up to and including termination, via certified mail.
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the BPR, their Officers and the Communications Committee use due diligence to ensure that all of our pilots recognize the sincere lack of trust and confidence in our Corporate pilot Management and emphasize the importance of USAPA Representation with any communications or dealings with any of the 6 aforementioned Management Pilots.
 

steveg

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All this and not a single word about the hundred's of pilots getting furloughed.
 

DHPFLYN

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Wow a letter isn't that great. I am sure they will frame it and put it on the wall. They need to get compensation and have the others fired or unpaid leave. That letter means nothing.
 

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I'm out of ideas. I think its something in the water or food chain in Charlotte. Real live people just cannot be that stupid. (talking of the resolution writers.)

More fodder for those of us now USAPA members who have pledged in writing with our membership apps that we will do everything in our power to undermine and destroy the union. And they accepted us! They now have to protect us as we obliterate them! Cool!
 

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Another federal rico suit in the making? Geez, when those guys did all that stuff they should have known that there would be consequences for mailing feces, right Weasel?
 
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Bringupthebird

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Dang, no they went and made me pizs my pants again! I'm suing Bradford for excessive drycleaning expenses, and filing for an injunction against doing anymore stupid crp for another 18 months.
 

AA717driver

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And here I was, embarrassed to be a member of ALPA... :rolleyes: TC
 

pilotss

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blah blah blah, you said he said, nothing constructive here,

Next thread please
 

LearLove

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All this and not a single word about the hundred's of pilots getting furloughed.

actually one of the updates said that a vote will go out to cover health care for the furloughs.

can't remember the exact amounts but something like:

30/month - capts
25/month fo's
25/month e190 ca
15/month e190 fo's

and no I haven't been very happy with the new gang as of late wrt them spending money to "cover" a few senior 200K/yr capt's while 40k FO's hit the street.
 

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here is the message:

The Board passed a resolution to assess the membership, in order to pay
for insurance for those Pilots who are furloughed. Only members in good
standing are eligible for this assistance. The amounts to be assessed
are as follows:

Captains------------$25.00/month

F/O's----------------$15.00/month

E-190 Cap----------$15.00/month

E-190 F/O----------$10.00/month

This assessment will be sent out for membership ratification.
 

Bringupthebird

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Why can they have a vote on an assessment, but they can't be bothered with holding an election for reps?

Don't the USAPA supporters feel the need to pick their own reps, or do they have so much confidence in this "think tank" that they trust them implicitly and abdicate their rights to vote?

Bradford - Dictator for life!
 

denny

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I can guarantee you that the pilots of USAPA will vote against an assessment to pay for furloughed pilot's medical benefits. I can guarantee it.
 

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here is the message:

The Board passed a resolution to assess the membership, in order to pay
for insurance for those Pilots who are furloughed. Only members in good
standing are eligible for this assistance. The amounts to be assessed
are as follows:

Captains------------$25.00/month

F/O's----------------$15.00/month

E-190 Cap----------$15.00/month

E-190 F/O----------$10.00/month

This assessment will be sent out for membership ratification.


That's all they have? Nothing about trying to prevent, or lessen the furloughs?

Pathetic. usapa has done more to harm this profession in 4 months than ALPA did in 80 years.
 

DCAA320

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I can guarantee you that the pilots of USAPA will vote against an assessment to pay for furloughed pilot's medical benefits. I can guarantee it.

Well I vote for it, and,

you cannot guarantee jack $hit, B!tch
 

imacdog

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Good call DCAA320, don't want to look bad for the DFR lawsuit.
 

Bringupthebird

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How can they be trusted to properly handle any money you give them? Can't you imagine the justification for continuing the assessment to feed a slush fund that closes the gap between expenses and lost dues revenue?

"We can't help anyone if we can't keep the union solvent..."
 
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