Usairways no more profit sharing?

[Mamma]

Hi Mamma, not trying to be mean but you are not a very nice looking lady.

This is what the airline business does to pretty girls!

 

[waveflyer]

CB- how much did Parker pay silver to take this freaking long to make a decision???
QT- if delay = harm to west pilots, what recourse do they have to get a judgement already???

Can we apply a golden gate standard? We built the bridge and the Hoover dam quicker in the middle of the depression than this guy has taken to make a call.
At what point is he responsible for doing his job?

East: if you "win", did you?

 

[charlie2]

This is what the airline business does to pretty girls!

So true!!! What are you wearing right now?

 

[charlie2]

So was your contribution to the company and hence your claim to anything but the bottom of the list.

You seem to be stuck on the broken record of asking for advice you wouldn't listen to anyway. You should have dumped USAPA before they welded you to the furlough tracks.

Did the manager at Wendys tell you he'd consider rehiring you? Better check on that. NOW!

I'm not asking for advice I'm pointing out that you were trying to make us FI.com peeps think that you know how to get "leverage" and it is obvious to us all that you don't even know what the word means. You heard some one say it before and to try and look smart you keep repeating it. I have told you and anyone else bored enough to read this that the two west pilots who are working hard for me and you admit that getting this "leverage" will be hard. If you try to tell me that I should want the UAL ALPA kind of "leverage" than you are not as smart as I thought. Ya they got a 99% yes vote for a strike but that is symbolic they can't go out and strike. It certainly is a step in the right direction but it isn't "leverage".

 

[charlie2]

CB- how much did Parker pay silver to take this freaking long to make a decision???
QT- if delay = harm to west pilots, what recourse do they have to get a judgement already???

Can we apply a golden gate standard? We built the bridge and the Hoover dam quicker in the middle of the depression than this guy has taken to make a call.
At what point is he responsible for doing his job?

East: if you "win", did you?

No kidding Wave I was in the Marines and they highly suggested that you be decisive. Make a damn decision and go with it.

"Win"? I think the nic was a loser for all of us.

 

[charlie2]

So was your contribution to the company and hence your claim to anything but the bottom of the list.

You seem to be stuck on the broken record of asking for advice you wouldn't listen to anyway. You should have dumped USAPA before they welded you to the furlough tracks.

Did the manager at Wendys tell you he'd consider rehiring you? Better check on that. NOW!

Yes Birdie when my very highly compensated leaders...leaders is not the right word here...when my very highly compensated clerks furloughed me (by the way I was flying full 737's then) to try and make us look pretty for a M/A the AWA clerks got suckered in ha ha h ha hah! Park the planes parker still can't make it work. Why are you still so happy that the clerks stopped paying me and my family so you can take my job? I'll never understand your happiness about that. What are you wearing right now?

 

[Bringupthebird]

No kidding Wave I was in the Marines and they highly suggested that you be decisive. Make a damn decision and go with it.

Marine? Really? And yet you "decide" to come back and make a houseboat out of the same ship you torpedoed with your two-pronged "Full Pay to the Last Day"/USAPA injunction strategy (while demanding that the west pilots pay for the rebuilding). Can't argue with your "decisiveness" there Skipper Chuck, but the decision itself? Well...

While you're mulling that career scratch-shot, explain to the audience how you and your eastern peanut gallery figured thay could jettison all leverage by starting a civil war, dreamed up in the back of a van. Explain to them how you financed the bonuses of the real adversery, while making yourselves a laughingstock/pariah, all the while imagining yourselves to be the standard-bearers of union principles - by thriving solely off disunity.

You see Skipper Chuck, I do know alot about leverage and it will be difficult primarily because of the actions and inactions of the east pilots who extorted the funding of their ill-conceived juggernaut from, and to the detriment of, the west pilots who performed their duties in this merger with military precision and in the spirit of the law. Leverage will come when the east sees the horrible consequences of following Stephen Bradford off the cliff and surprises Parker and Horton by announcing they are embracing the Nicolau list and putting unity between the pilot groups as a prime priority. They would further surprise tham by announcing a representation election that would Nuke USAPA and replace them with a union that had the money and maturity to carry the intellectual infants from the east across the line in a merger with APA. USAPA has had plenty of time to prove they are capable, and the verdict can now be handed down - FAIL!

Your pals on the east squandered leverage because they preferred to play "Union Boss" as if it was a video game. They are the ones who caused you and your family (and mine) to suffer and since I am much more senior than you, I really have no interest in the bottom F/O job. Been there, done that at quite a few airlines.

Am I happy that you lost your job? Indifferent really. You lost it from an airline that doesn't exist anymore and you were recalled to an airline that only shares the same name. But I am unhappy that your east yahoos have cost me the chance to make more money doing the job I am already doing. Kirby crowed about how air travel is a bargain since the inflation-adjusted fares have dropped 20% from 1999. Well, fuel hasn't dropped and Airbus doesn't have a punch card for a free one after you buy 10, so that saving came fron one place, PAYROLL.

And how did that happen? It all started with an angry F/O in a van ...

 

[The Drizzle]

...........so how long does a fool have to be on property to "enjoy" profit sharing?

 

[Crzipilot]

believe it's prorated by the number of months on property. Must have a profit for full year to anything to pay out.....so 300 million this qtr can be wiped out by a 300 loss next qtr.....etc etc.......Then only 10% goes to profit sharing, and Pilots get something like 26% of that or something, divided by those on property...

 

[charlie2]

Marine? Really? And yet you "decide" to come back and make a houseboat out of the same ship you torpedoed with your two-pronged "Full Pay to the Last Day"/USAPA injunction strategy (while demanding that the west pilots pay for the rebuilding). Can't argue with your "decisiveness" there Skipper Chuck, but the decision itself? Well...

While you're mulling that career scratch-shot, explain to the audience how you and your eastern peanut gallery figured thay could jettison all leverage by starting a civil war, dreamed up in the back of a van. Explain to them how you financed the bonuses of the real adversery, while making yourselves a laughingstock/pariah, all the while imagining yourselves to be the standard-bearers of union principles - by thriving solely off disunity.

You see Skipper Chuck, I do know alot about leverage and it will be difficult primarily because of the actions and inactions of the east pilots who extorted the funding of their ill-conceived juggernaut from, and to the detriment of, the west pilots who performed their duties in this merger with military precision and in the spirit of the law. Leverage will come when the east sees the horrible consequences of following Stephen Bradford off the cliff and surprises Parker and Horton by announcing they are embracing the Nicolau list and putting unity between the pilot groups as a prime priority. They would further surprise tham by announcing a representation election that would Nuke USAPA and replace them with a union that had the money and maturity to carry the intellectual infants from the east across the line in a merger with APA. USAPA has had plenty of time to prove they are capable, and the verdict can now be handed down - FAIL!

Your pals on the east squandered leverage because they preferred to play "Union Boss" as if it was a video game. They are the ones who caused you and your family (and mine) to suffer and since I am much more senior than you, I really have no interest in the bottom F/O job. Been there, done that at quite a few airlines.

Am I happy that you lost your job? Indifferent really. You lost it from an airline that doesn't exist anymore and you were recalled to an airline that only shares the same name. But I am unhappy that your east yahoos have cost me the chance to make more money doing the job I am already doing. Kirby crowed about how air travel is a bargain since the inflation-adjusted fares have dropped 20% from 1999. Well, fuel hasn't dropped and Airbus doesn't have a punch card for a free one after you buy 10, so that saving came fron one place, PAYROLL.

And how did that happen? It all started with an angry F/O in a van ...

So you still wont tell us????? Why do not want a raise and better benefits? Please just tell us and USAPA about your leverage. Please. I bet UAL/CAL ALPA would pay you a huge consulting fee if you tell them your leverage secrets.

I absolutely know you are indifferent to someone losing their job because it's the ALPA way! They actually threatened anyone who was being furloughed to not take a job at a certain non-union airline....they actually threatened people who needed to have a paycheck to buy food for their kids.