Usairways no more profit sharing?

[DCAA320]

So, the arbitrators for the US/AA SLI will just ignore the Nic?

YES

That's da plan!

 

[cactusboy53]

APA will not decide the new list. I believe a new arbitrator will and I also think they will treat this as three separate lists to decide on. My reasoning is simple because even though AWA pilots and US pilots operate under the same certificate, have the same uniforms and are paid by the same employer we have two separate operations and two separate seniority lists. I can not bid for a seat in Phoenix right now and they can not bid for PHL, CLT or DCA so they must be two separate lists right?

Just another avenue to attempt to evade a final and binding list. Here are some questions you might want to ponder:

1. If there are more than two lists, who will "represent" the former AWA pilots?
2. If there are more than two lists and we have all been paying dues, would there not be ANOTHER DFR lawsuit as a result?
3. If there are more than two lists, then what list do the people that were hired AFTER the AAA pilots all returned to the new US Airways going to be called?
4. Hey, while were at it let's re-order the Piedmont, Empire, TWA, Reno Air and Air Cal? I say we just go by date of birth! The chance of that is just south of using 3 (or more) lists.

It is a FACT that the Nicolau seniority list is the ONLY seniority list sitting on Parker's desk. Presently IF a contract is negotiated without the Nicolau list, both LCC and USAPA will be co-defendants in another DFR lawsuit (this the question in front of Judge Silver right now). Here's a few more questions:

1. Have you read ANY of the transcripts regarding the declaratory action? Have you read how the judge has been addressing the company? Have you read how the judge is addressing the USAPA legal team? Have you read the LATEST filings from the company attorney (Hint, they mirror Leonidas' position).

Each LCC pilot has lost at least $100,000- $250,000 in income, time off, vacation, and other contract improvements. Some of the more senior pilots are closer to $750,000.00. All for NOTHING. Never to be seen or regained for the fools errand referred to as DOH.


The latest east bid are EMB 190 captains (mostly). JBLU makes $142 and hour for while our EMB190 captains are BELOW $100.00 an hour. Winning! USAPA.....the Charlie Sheen of the airline unions!

 

[cactusboy53]

So, the arbitrators for the US/AA SLI will just ignore the Nic?

So....Let's say I'm an arbitrator assigned to do the US/AA SLI. I am handed 4 lists (AA, AAA, AWA & the "third listers"). I am fully aware of all events and the nasty things that the AAA pilots have said about my co-worker Mr. George Nicolau. I am also aware of USAPA suing the AWA pillots and doing all kinds of snotty little things to them (re-run of elections, Section 29 attempted firings, RICO charges, theft charges, etc.).

Having been a co-worker and mentored by Mr. Nicolau, it distresses me a great deal that one party thinks they can evade a "final and binding" seniority arbitration by simply changing CBA's.

Hmmmmmm, well with the lists separated I can do ANYTHING that I want. USAPA has stated that THIS arbitration is different because it is a FEDERAL final & binding arbitration. Man this is gonna sting!!!!

 

[St. Nic]

If LCC/AMR merge than contract Nic is tied to will be dead & APA will decide the SLI.

Exactly!!!

 

[olympus593]

So much for trying to ask a question...tks easthole and westicle...can t you start your own poo slinging thread instead of hijacking mine?

 

[flygirlqt]

If LCC/AMR merge than contract Nic is tied to will be dead & APA will decide the SLI.

Speaking as an attorney, you are 100% in error with this statement.

 

[Carl S.]

No change to profit sharing that I have heard of. All is still the same, Contract 2004, LOA 93 and the Trans. agreement still all in effect till who knows.

 

[Guppiedriver]

Speaking as an attorney, you are 100% in error with this statement.

Speaking as someone who understands English, I don't even know what he said.

 

[charlie2]

So much for trying to ask a question...tks easthole and westicle...can t you start your own poo slinging thread instead of hijacking mine?

Sorry olympus if you start a thread about engine types on the Dreamliner it will end like this! The "Term Sheet" that our management and APA (the AA pilots union) leadership agreed to has no profit sharing in it. But until a beautiful marriage (and horrifying honeymoon) with AA, US Airways pilots will get profit sharing. The profit sharing we are talking about was the only thing we got as a result of the draconian pay and benefit cuts during Ch 11. The west pilots get our profit sharing when they never took pay cuts because they were always low paid ...nice.

 

[flygirlqt]

Speaking as someone who understands English, I don't even know what he said.

True. You have to piece that USAPA drivel together to form coherent sentences.