usa Jet

[atpcliff]

Hi!

USA Jet just had a new hire class get done with IOE. They are planning another class in April. We may have more when the newest PAX DC-9 is announced. They R interviewing now.

PM me if U want detailed info.

Cliff
PVR

PS-Falcon guys get 10 off every 28, and -9 guys get 12 off every 28.

PPS-If U R a mil helo guy, U CAN get hired with 100 MEL minimum.

 

[The Gimp]

The Good= If you are low experience, you will get baptised by fire, but only fly about 20-30 hrs a month, not really a good time building job. Maintenance was OK, I think for the most part they try thier best, when the plane was broke, that was that and FAX the log page, about 20% of the time you would get the come on its not that far type of responce. The Falcon and DC-9 are trucks, you cant really hurt them.

The Bad= Your at the whim of management (whats new huh) the management is at the whim of the auto industry, which by the way other than a few PAX ops on the 9's, they refuse to diversify to other areas, no matter how bad the auto business gets, which in the past they would lay off, but as of rescent history, they will just cut your pay around 30%.

The Ugly= As previously stated, you dont fly that much, so there will be no overtime unless you sell back one of your 10 days off. They want you to move to YIP, but I dont think it is in writing that you have to, so if you commute, your definetely not going to want to sell days off. Upgrading is hit or miss, some of the guys last year upgraded quick, some have taken 3 years. If you take a 9 upgrade(FO), then your going to be a proffesional 9 FO, years before you upgrade on the 9 to captian from the right seat. So if you wait for the Falcon, and you finally do upgrade, it will take you a few years to get to the coveted 1000 hr PIC turbine mark, unless business picks up, but also as previously stated, they will not budge from the auto industry.

Pagers= 24/7 on your days on. If your #3 at 12 noon and you got up at 9am, by the time midnight rolls around you might be #1 on the rotation. If you got into bed at 10PM or so and then the pager goes off, you have 20 minutes to get out of bed, get your uniform on, head to the airport at 3F degrees in the snow, preflight the airplane, get the clearance and be off the ground in 45 minutes on your way to Mexico, then to wherever, and your legal to operate well into the next afternoon, hence "baptism by fire".

Summary: Long hours, low pay, may be lower if pay is cut, OK airplanes, most of the guys you fly with are cool, there is also fun to be had. By far the hardest working pilots in some of the most demanding situations that can be found.

I think though if you had a regional job lined up, you would be far better becuase of the time you would build there, nice equipment, human schedule, airline benifits, quality of life, but of course low pay, but heck, first couple of years at UPS you dont make anything either.

 

[skysharke]

Does USA JET have a training contract/Ameristar

Does USA JET still have a training contract? Which outfit is better for QOL Ameristar or USA JET? I know Amerstar has a 18 month contract. Wondering which pays better with the amount of hours flown and all.

Thanks

 

[pilotyip]

No training contract at USA Jet. Gimp is close on what USA Jet is all about. However he left something out, no one is going anywhere, it spite of all the down sides, it is still better than most jobs our pilots could find at other places. Gimp is not paying attention to what is being said at the pilot meetings; the automotive flying is being replaced by non-automotive flying. The fact we are starting a class next week is a good sign. We have pilots scheduled on our interview schedule through May, so someone must think it is an OK place to look at. If interested go to jsfirm.com and post a resume to our DA-20 F/O position. Interview, if invited, take a look, make up your own mind.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

The last newhire class (4 is the standard number) there was one guy from Ameristar. In the next class (April) there is also an Ameristar guy. In the past we have had at least 1 guy come from Ameristar. I don´t think any USAJet guys have ever gone to Ameristar.

As of the middle of Feb, USAJet flying was 50/50 auto/non-auto.

The average for monthly Falcon flying the last 3 years was about 40 hrs/month.

Winter is our slowest time. Jan:25 hrs Feb:10 hrs Mar:45 hrs (in only 12 days).

Cliff
MMZN???

 

[Buckeye]

Cliffy, it is Kalitta not Ameristar.

 

[johnsonrod]

DC-9 at TEB

I just talked to a buddy of mine at TEB who said he saw a USA Jet DC-9 land there. How often do USA Jet DC-9s serve Teterboro? I didn't even think DC-9s were allowed to land at TEB due to the noise sensitivity in the area... Was it a pax charter or a freight run?

By the way, what are your minimums for hiring into the DC-9 as an FO? Thanks

 

[4fanman]

From what I understand, they don't hire into the -9. Everybody comes onboard as a DA-20 fo.

 

[pilotyip]

The DC-9 in TEB is doing NCAA Basketball charters. All hiring is done into the right seat of the DA-20, cargo side. Some pilots have moved to the DC-9 in thier first year. Right now DC-9 Captain is about 6-7 years.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Correction!

Buckeye said I screwed up my earlier post. USAJet has had one guy in the past come from Ameristar. The 2 new guys are from little Kalitta (learjets and falcons).

The Falcon sometimes flies into TEB, but not very often, either.

Hope ya`ll R having a great day!

Cliff
MMNZ???