US Express carriers

[scouts out!]

Rumor has it that airways is planning on cancelling contracts with the contract carriers while in chapter 11 and that most of the flying will be done by the WO's. As far as CLT they still plan on CLT Nov. 1 however they are not putting 48 700's in there in nov. PSA doesn't have 48 700's yet and we will see if the orders keep coming or if they will stop or be adjusted. Right now it is anyones guess. However the WO's of Airways should be the ones flying for airways and if any company is to be contracted to fly for airways, the WO's should be making that decision based on their ability to keep up with demand. Contract carriers have no loyalty to airways, thats why they source themselves out to whomever pays them. Its like prostitution, they don't sleep with one person they sleep with anyone who gives them money, no hard feelings but I am sure some will be taken. Time will tell and who knows by the time we find out, it will all be done. The way I feel is I hope it all works out, but if not well lets figure it out so everyone at airways, whether WO or mainline or contract carrier, can get on with our lives.

 

[Finnair]

http://www.transformingusairways.com

 

[TWAER]

Rumor has it that airways is planning on cancelling contracts with the contract carriers while in chapter 11 and that most of the flying will be done by the WO's. As far as CLT they still plan on CLT Nov. 1 however they are not putting 48 700's in there in nov. PSA doesn't have 48 700's yet and we will see if the orders keep coming or if they will stop or be adjusted. Right now it is anyones guess. However the WO's of Airways should be the ones flying for airways and if any company is to be contracted to fly for airways, the WO's should be making that decision based on their ability to keep up with demand. Contract carriers have no loyalty to airways, thats why they source themselves out to whomever pays them. Its like prostitution, they don't sleep with one person they sleep with anyone who gives them money, no hard feelings but I am sure some will be taken. Time will tell and who knows by the time we find out, it will all be done. The way I feel is I hope it all works out, but if not well lets figure it out so everyone at airways, whether WO or mainline or contract carrier, can get on with our lives.

I heard that last BK 11. You may be right but it won't matter much seeing Airway will have a very hard time surviving this one. They are only delaying the inevitable.


And get a clue. You want to talk about loyalty a$$hole. We have been with Airway probably before you were even born. You might want to do some research before you unload your loyalty crap.

 

[acaTerry]

i totally agree with you...if US goes that route, the question is where are the carriers gonna go? i don't think any can survive on their own nowadays. unless they create their own "independence air"

TSA can't do that. Their MGT isn't half as good as the one at INDY. (No bias here either, I don't work at ACA/Indy anymore).

 

[acaTerry]

I heard that last BK 11. You may be right but it won't matter much seeing Airway will have a very hard time surviving this one. They are only delaying the inevitable.


And get a clue. You want to talk about loyalty a$$hole. We have been with Airway probably before you were even born. You might want to do some research before you unload your loyalty crap.

Geez man! Shafted by AAL, now it looks like US Express is your second. You must be pissed. Hope it works out for you.

 

[TWAER]

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[scouts out!]

TWAER.......... Life sucks and by the way I don't think Mesa, TSA, CHQ has been around as long as I have been alive so fly somewhere else with that crap. Does your company fly solely for Airways or do you also fly for UAL, DAL, AAL? Besides if Airways fails then so do the WO's all you have to do is hope your not junior then change uniforms. If your loyal to Airways, then prove it and do everything you can to help airways recover, that in itself will be a handful but all we can do is try and hope for the best. Stop crying and deal with the issues. Good luck to you

 

[TWAER]

How do you want me to prove loyalty to Airways??? All we did was Airways flying until 2000. Don't confuse loyalty and being diverse. I hope everything works out for all the WO"S but don't think for a second that I am not glad not to be 100% tied to Airways. It would be a big blow to us if we lost Airways flying. We have many people just like you that will be out of a job when the doors shut. If you have not noticed, our other code shares are not doing to good either. So it is in our best interest along with that of Airways, to support them. There is my loyalty.

 

[ChinaClipper]

Before we get all high and mightly WO types......

about the contract carriers, it wasn't all that long ago that MAINLINE jets flew where you do today. Complaining about being under cut by ANYONE is BS. Just ask any mainline guy who had a job at ROA, DAY etc, got chased back to the hubs over the years, and now is SOL. What goes around really comes around.....

 

[WSurf]

Fubar

 

[skeezer]

Just ask any mainline guy who had a job at ROA, DAY etc, got chased back to the hubs over the years, and now is SOL.

They should not be paying Joe ramper so much money that he is willing to commute 300 miles to do the job. That is part of the problem here folks.

Anyway, good luck to all involved with US Airways, we are going to need it.

Peace,

Skeezer

 

[Weasil]

48 700's

PSA is scheduled to send 48 CRJ700's to CLT starting Nov 1. (was Oct 1). Whose routes will they be flying?

MESA, CHQ?

Usually I just ignore strange rumors but I had to comment here. PSA doesn't have any 700's. We have 5 (6?) 701's last time I checked and we certainly won't have 48 of those anytime soon to put in CLT or anywhere else.

By the way.. did you guys see the pictures of our latest 701 with the Star Alliance paint job?

 

[Airpiraterob]

hmm....post a link if you know of any pics of it anywhere. i havent seen anything yet out there.

 

[pdkaviator]

PSA CRJ in Star Alliance colours

here ya go

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/658765/M/

 

[jtf]

I guess I could see USAirways shrinking a bit and not needing all of the contract carrier's airplanes, but I can't see the contract carriers going away unless there is a liquidation. I just read that Embraer suspended new shipments and I would have to guess that Bombardier has done the same (don't know for sure). If there is no financing available to bring in new airplanes, then there is no way for the contract carriers to be replaced. Good luck to all involved (that includes me).

 

[Finnair]

Bombardier said on Sunday that its total aircraft deliveries for the current fiscal year would not be affected by US Airways' filing for bankruptcy protection.

 

[Habib]

Do you suppose that CHQ/RP will be getting thoes planes that EMB will not deliver to MidAtlantic?????

 

[PalmettoPilot]

CRJ701s

<<PSA doesn't have any 700's. We have 5 (6?) 701's last time I checked and we certainly won't have 48 of those anytime soon to put in CLT or anywhere else.>>

Weasil, thanks for the correction. 701's it is. 700's is what was quoted to our interview class by one of the DAY CPs. Same source for the quote on 48 of the 70 seat CRJs (701); and from company info 701 schedule is to deliver 2 per month until next OCT then 3 per month. Nov 1 was what we were told to expect for the CLT base to open.

Also, not sure if you heard this one or not. It came from an instructor in DAY. When PSA went to pick up a new 701 from Bombardier on Tuesday they were sent home without it. I guess there will be at least a slight delay until some of the dust settles. (maybe a long delay).

 

[Roscoethepilot]

I second that

don't come to Flightinfo looking for reassurance; it's a good way to get heartburn I give it 2 more posts before some jackass starts ranting about contract carriers and hoping you lose your job.

I second that, I come on here asking for some advice..and some douche bag starts rippin on me because I'm a little frustrated. You'll end up all pissed off and worried that you'll never have a job again.

 

[Weasil]

PalmettoPilot

Couple of corrections for ya. CLT Base will not open in November. The plane that was to be delivered earlier in the week was a 200 and yes it was not delivered. Don't know if that means anything... probably not... it's not the first time an airplane wasn't able to be delivered due to some kind of last minute maintenance problem or something. You are probably right though... this one was probably due to dust settling from Sunday's announcement.

The number 48 you heard was referring to expected deliveries, but remember, a month or two ago we were expecting 55 200's and now that's not happening. Stuff changes.