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Today the East MEC filed a lawsuit against the AWA MEC in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia seeking to vacate the Nicolau Award. We have attached a copy of the complaint to this e-mail.

Now I'm no lawyer, but I read the lawsuit and it's even more pathetic than the easties arbitration arguments. Weak, very weak. You should be embarrassed.
 
You guys just don't stop do you? Some day we are going to have to work together, but do what you can to make sure it never happens.
 
You guys just don't stop do you? Some day we are going to have to work together, but do what you can to make sure it never happens.

Not if the airline ceases to exist......Looking at Airways on time performance lately, things are going to get even more interesting there!

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It's really sad that one group is insisting on a windfall. I'm from the outside looking in and feel the arbitraitor did a pretty fair job. Sure wouldn't want to treat fellow employees that way.
 
Well, they went sobbing to ALPA national and got a cold shoulder, perhaps they think a judge can overrule an arbitrator. If that's the case, any and all past and future arbritration awards would be rendered pointless. Binding arbitration is binding and a judge will toss it. I don't see any judge opening up this can of unfounded worms.

The real question is what's the U MEC's next move after a judge throws this suit out ?

I'm concerned the U MEC might consider taking hostages.
 
Not if the airline ceases to exist......Looking at Airways on time performance lately, things are going to get even more interesting there!

737

Whats on Time Performance? Your lucky if your flight doesn't get cx'ed!
 
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Truely pathetic! Stephan states that the "fairness" that the ALPA merger policy is supposed to promote was not realized. Exactly how was AAA's proposal (during negotiations between the two MEC's prior to arbitration) of DOH going to realize this "fairness?"

AAA guys should be ashamed! Your union leadership refused to negotiate and that led to the arbitration process which you voluntarily entered into. The list is the list! Now it's time to be grown-ups and accept the outcome of your ill-concieved attempt at DOH!

Andy
 
UsAir pilots? Grown ups? C'mon man, you gotta be kidding me

PHXFLYR
 
i know your poor egos are brused. but grow up. without awa you would not even have ajob. the arbitration was fair. it you think you are more worthy than others get another job where you actually have to work
 
Today the East MEC filed a lawsuit against the AWA MEC in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia seeking to vacate the Nicolau Award. We have attached a copy of the complaint to this e-mail.

I'm sure glad that Darth Prater provided the necessary leadership to resolve this situation without the courts. [/sarcasm]

Seriously, though, good luck to the AAA guys. I'm not a fan of lawsuits against ALPA, but hopefully you'll get this resolved somehow.
 
I'm sure glad that Darth Prater provided the necessary leadership to resolve this situation without the courts. [/sarcasm]

Seriously, though, good luck to the AAA guys. I'm not a fan of lawsuits against ALPA, but hopefully you'll get this resolved somehow.

Just to clarify, this lawsuit is not against ALPA national; rather, it is against the pilot group of AWA and its MEC chairman.

In essence, it is Alpa pilots suing fellow Alpa pilots.
 
The BS on the East never stops............They fail to recognize that they were thrown a life raft, regardless of who or what that way of means was, and they are still employed!!!!

They kept the USair(ways) name, which in any account sounds gay because steven wolf thought it had a more international presence, because they wouldn't have to change signage and keep costs low by not removing a $hitty reputation of an airline by renaming it.

All this has done has given the East more amunition to think that this airline is theirs and screw the West.

East..........................you were a $hitty airline then..........you're a $hitty airline now.............the award is final and binding............sue, sue, sue,sue, all you want...............This is the NEW USAir(ways). Not the airline that wolf, gangwal, lakefield, and all et al used to run!!!

I feel sorry for the guys and girls that got screwed by the so called "windfall" that the West side received, but the old USAir(ways) doesn't exist any more!!!!

The award is final and binding!!! Let's get the task of getting a new contract done now before the economic tide goes south!!!
 
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That place is gonna be one hell of a miserable place to occupy a cockpit for a decade.

If it survives...
 
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It seems to me that any of the East guys didn't post anything on both threads about the lawsuit. Are you guys in shock or instructed not to say anything?

Is it John or Jack Stephan? In the lawsuit transcript he appears as John Stephan, is this the part of the joke we didn't get?
 
MEC CODE-A-PHONE UPDATE - June 26, 2007

This is MEC Chairman Jack Stephan with a Chairman’s message to the pilots for Tuesday, June 26, 2007.

Today we took a big step in protecting the interests of the US Airways Pilots by having the Washington DC Labor Law firm of Baptiste & Wilder file a complaint in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia seeking to have the Nicolau Award vacated and overturned. It is our judgment that this action is necessary to protect the legitimate interests of our pilots under the rules and policies of the Association. A copy of our complaint and a letter I wrote to Captain Prater informing him of our litigation will soon be posted on our website.

Accordingly, we have asked ALPA International to adhere to their stated policy and remain neutral in this seniority integration dispute, while attempting to facilitate a settlement between the two pilot groups. In addition, we asked that ALPA International deny any requests from the AWA MEC to release the Nicolau Award to US Airways, while its validity under ALPA Merger Policy is being determined by the Court. We advised them that to do otherwise would constitute a serious breach of ALPA’s neutrality and doom any attempts to solve the issues facing these two pilot groups.

Although we are now pursuing litigation as a means to protect our interests, I reminded Captain Prater that we stand ready to fulfill the May 24th Executive Council resolution that encouraged both MECs to “explore consensual approaches that promote career protection and mutual success.” As I have said many times before, agreeing to this process does not change our position before the Executive Council and our strategy with regard to overturning the Nicolau Award.

In regards to the video released on June 22nd to all ALPA pilots, I was extremely disappointed in the script for its cavalier portrayal of the US Airways Pilots’ position and more importantly, its omission of any supporting facts for our position. That was in contrast with the manner in which the video clearly defined the America West position, albeit a much simpler thing to do. If ALPA International truly wants all ALPA pilots to have an understanding of the issues confronting the US Airways and America West pilots as they stated, then their communications must clearly define the issues of both parties and the precedent-setting effects that the resolution of these issues will have for this union moving forward.

From the onset of our request to the Executive Council, we have repeatedly expressed that we are not just simply dissatisfied with the arbitrator’s decision; that, in fact, it is our position that the Nicolau Award violates the basic tenants of ALPA Merger Policy. The notion that the award is “not to our liking” trivializes the very real objections we have to the entire Nicolau debacle and clearly doesn’t provide our sister and brother ALPA pilots an accurate understanding of the situation. The video also emphatically states that what the ALPA Officers and Executive Council “must do” is to enforce and implement ALPA policy. We agree! That is exactly what we are asking the ALPA International leadership to do.

We signed on to this arbitration in full anticipation that ALPA Merger Policy would be complied with. Once the Nicolau Award broke the rules, which the US Airways Merger Committee’s presentation to the Executive Council clearly demonstrated, the sanctity of the process was violated. To force the issue otherwise conflicts with ALPA policy and flies in the face of what all unions should stand for.

You have my commitment that we will continue to leave no stone unturned in righting the wrong of the Nicolau Award. I ask that you continue your professional conduct and stay informed. We will need the support of all our pilots moving forward.

The US Airways MEC remains singularly focused on protecting the careers of the US Airways pilots.

Please continue to look out for each other, follow our “Three Prong Approach,” and as always, fly safe and thanks for listening.
 
I've never seen a bigger bunch of whinin' babies in my life. And I have friends at East.
 

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