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That place is gonna be one hell of a miserable place to occupy a cockpit for a decade.

If it survives...
 
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It seems to me that any of the East guys didn't post anything on both threads about the lawsuit. Are you guys in shock or instructed not to say anything?

Is it John or Jack Stephan? In the lawsuit transcript he appears as John Stephan, is this the part of the joke we didn't get?
 
MEC CODE-A-PHONE UPDATE - June 26, 2007

This is MEC Chairman Jack Stephan with a Chairman’s message to the pilots for Tuesday, June 26, 2007.

Today we took a big step in protecting the interests of the US Airways Pilots by having the Washington DC Labor Law firm of Baptiste & Wilder file a complaint in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia seeking to have the Nicolau Award vacated and overturned. It is our judgment that this action is necessary to protect the legitimate interests of our pilots under the rules and policies of the Association. A copy of our complaint and a letter I wrote to Captain Prater informing him of our litigation will soon be posted on our website.

Accordingly, we have asked ALPA International to adhere to their stated policy and remain neutral in this seniority integration dispute, while attempting to facilitate a settlement between the two pilot groups. In addition, we asked that ALPA International deny any requests from the AWA MEC to release the Nicolau Award to US Airways, while its validity under ALPA Merger Policy is being determined by the Court. We advised them that to do otherwise would constitute a serious breach of ALPA’s neutrality and doom any attempts to solve the issues facing these two pilot groups.

Although we are now pursuing litigation as a means to protect our interests, I reminded Captain Prater that we stand ready to fulfill the May 24th Executive Council resolution that encouraged both MECs to “explore consensual approaches that promote career protection and mutual success.” As I have said many times before, agreeing to this process does not change our position before the Executive Council and our strategy with regard to overturning the Nicolau Award.

In regards to the video released on June 22nd to all ALPA pilots, I was extremely disappointed in the script for its cavalier portrayal of the US Airways Pilots’ position and more importantly, its omission of any supporting facts for our position. That was in contrast with the manner in which the video clearly defined the America West position, albeit a much simpler thing to do. If ALPA International truly wants all ALPA pilots to have an understanding of the issues confronting the US Airways and America West pilots as they stated, then their communications must clearly define the issues of both parties and the precedent-setting effects that the resolution of these issues will have for this union moving forward.

From the onset of our request to the Executive Council, we have repeatedly expressed that we are not just simply dissatisfied with the arbitrator’s decision; that, in fact, it is our position that the Nicolau Award violates the basic tenants of ALPA Merger Policy. The notion that the award is “not to our liking” trivializes the very real objections we have to the entire Nicolau debacle and clearly doesn’t provide our sister and brother ALPA pilots an accurate understanding of the situation. The video also emphatically states that what the ALPA Officers and Executive Council “must do” is to enforce and implement ALPA policy. We agree! That is exactly what we are asking the ALPA International leadership to do.

We signed on to this arbitration in full anticipation that ALPA Merger Policy would be complied with. Once the Nicolau Award broke the rules, which the US Airways Merger Committee’s presentation to the Executive Council clearly demonstrated, the sanctity of the process was violated. To force the issue otherwise conflicts with ALPA policy and flies in the face of what all unions should stand for.

You have my commitment that we will continue to leave no stone unturned in righting the wrong of the Nicolau Award. I ask that you continue your professional conduct and stay informed. We will need the support of all our pilots moving forward.

The US Airways MEC remains singularly focused on protecting the careers of the US Airways pilots.

Please continue to look out for each other, follow our “Three Prong Approach,” and as always, fly safe and thanks for listening.
 
I've never seen a bigger bunch of whinin' babies in my life. And I have friends at East.
 
When morons speak

i know your poor egos are brused. but grow up. without awa you would not even have ajob. the arbitration was fair. it you think you are more worthy than others get another job where you actually have to work

Listen little child, you obviously have NO clue what you are talking about, so do everyone a favor and just STFU!
 
It seems to me that any of the East guys didn't post anything on both threads about the lawsuit. Are you guys in shock or instructed not to say anything?

Is it John or Jack Stephan? In the lawsuit transcript he appears as John Stephan, is this the part of the joke we didn't get?


No instructions, just apathy. I don't think anyone really cares what Jack, John, WhoTF-ever says about any of this anymore. For that matter, I don't know too many East pilots who give a **** what happens to the airline, either.

There's no confidence in the company, and no confidence in the union (what a joke). Good luck to those who try to finish their careers here.
 
I have jumped on East iron several times and found the majority of pilots to be intelligent decent human beings. The one time I had a problem was with an FO who was in the union. If he had said the things he said in the cockpit to me in a bar somewhere I would have broken him in half. Unfortunately I think slime balls like this guy are calling the shots over there and it reflects poorly on the rest. Best of luck to the good people on both sides, screw the rest.
 
Listen little child, you obviously have NO clue what you are talking about, so do everyone a favor and just STFU!

If you don't like your situation, I'd be gald to have you pull gear for me in my toy RJ.

Signed,

Another "little child".

:) He, He, He...........................
 
I would love to know what they'd be saying now if they got their DOH and Stapled 95% of the America West guys. Their, unabashed, blind, attitude of complete entitlement and arrogance is what put them where they are on that list...the only legal list that will ever exist.

A lot of good guys on the East could have easily gotten a better deal.

The lesson is, if you're going to simply regurgitate the, "my union speaks for me" mantra, then you damn well better keep a close eye on exactly they're saying on "your behalf".
 
The one time I had a problem was with an FO who was in the union. If he had said the things he said in the cockpit to me in a bar somewhere I would have broken him in half. Unfortunately I think slime balls like this guy are calling the shots over there and it reflects poorly on the rest.

sadly, I think a few slimeballs in the union are running the shots at every MEC. The really sad thing is the pilot groups at these airlines continue to elect the same pathetic union reps.
 
That place is gonna be one hell of a miserable place to occupy a cockpit for a decade.

If it survives...

Even after the courts tell the easties to pound sand and the operations are combined, there aren't going to be enough mixed cockpits in the next decade to even matter.
 
What part of "Binding Arbitration" do the US Airways pilots not understand?

They agreed to "Binding Arbitration". Now, they don't like what they rolled after pitching their dice down the Craps table. And they now want a "do over"? I don't think so.

Am I missing something here?
 
Even after the courts tell the easties to pound sand and the operations are combined, there aren't going to be enough mixed cockpits in the next decade to even matter.

Don't work there, so don't have a dog in this fight; but just how do you ever see the operations being combined??

You have to have a 'combined contract' before you can integrate the operations together; and the chances of that were Very Very 'dim' before the list came out, now is is probably "ZERO" I saw the contract (pay) proposal the company put out last month, and with "cheap A$$" drunk Parker (cost neutral guy), my guess is that was their "First, Last, Best and Final Offer"

So how do you realistically see the operations being combined?? Even if you get 'a little' more in the pay/contract area; you will NEVER have enough votes on the 'east side' now to get anything passed??????

That is why the 'list' doesn't really mean anything (my understanding), without a 'combined contract.' Just something to think about, for what's its worth.

DA
 
Listen little child, you obviously have NO clue what you are talking about, so do everyone a favor and just STFU!


Hey 737 PYLT your girl is loose again go get her back before she bites someone:p

WD.
 

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