US Airways jumpseat question

[UALX727]

I will be trying to jumpseat in a few days on US Airways out of PHX. It's been awhile since I've jumped on them, do you just go up to gate as usual or do you have to list online somehow? Thx

 

[DorkProp]

Just show up at the gate. Way less cumbersome than the American method.

 

[drinksonme]

They may ask if you listed, but that's because they really are not paying attention. They ask me all the time what airline I am with while I am standing right in front of them with my US Airways ID and in uniform. They will take care of you though. Been easiest airline to jumpseat on before/after employment with them.

 

[UALX727]

Thx guys

 

[wood pecker]

Great and friendly crews. Got bumped for weight n balance when it was hot outside though. They said its odd bc a Jump seaters weight is calculated in the BOW unless you are from a diff airline then your weight goes on as extra equaling bumped.

I might have misunderstood the explanation. Thanks again for all of the other successful trips home.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Great and friendly crews. Got bumped for weight n balance when it was hot outside though. They said its odd bc a Jump seaters weight is calculated in the BOW unless you are from a diff airline then your weight goes on as extra equaling bumped.

I might have misunderstood the explanation. Thanks again for all of the other successful trips home.

Generally speaking, the basic operating weight includes the crew required for operation (certificate-required number of pilots and flight attendants). Every other person added, whether paying passenger, non-rev, or jumpseater, must have his or her weight accounted for. The color of uniform, nor the paint scheme of the aircraft, matters not.

It's possible that you either misheard the explanation, or the person giving it (a customer service agent, maybe?) didn't understand that themselves.

Bubba

 

[RJLoser]

Generally speaking, the basic operating weight includes the crew required for operation (certificate-required number of pilots and flight attendants). Every other person added, whether paying passenger, non-rev, or jumpseater, must have his or her weight accounted for. The color of uniform, nor the paint scheme of the aircraft, matters not.

It's possible that you either misheard the explanation, or the person giving it (a customer service agent, maybe?) didn't understand that themselves.

Bubba

I think what he meant was US Airways jump seaters do not get bumped from their own AC. Unfortunately, non US will get bumped with a weight issue.

 

[captairbusbb]

I will be trying to jumpseat in a few days on US Airways out of PHX. It's been awhile since I've jumped on them, do you just go up to gate as usual or do you have to list online somehow? Thx

UALX....Go to gate and request J/S, fill out form and they will check CASS status...if CASS, you can ride in J/S...if not, you can have seat in cabin.

Mainline crewmembers can list on J/S in advance, non mainline is first come first serve..

Mainline J/S do not get bumped for W/B as they are included in BOW..non mainline may be subject to weight restrictions..

Hope this helps!!

 

[wood pecker]

Thanks for clearing up my confusion. That's what the crew was jokingly saying. With me the plane was too heavy however when I get off and if a US Air JS wanted on then the plane is not, too heavy.

 

[zasca]

JS is not in BOW.... USair guys on JS just get priority over pax and freight for final W/B calculations.

 

[drinksonme]

It not fun to get bumped. Sorry it happened. It's worse when an other airline person gets bumped for weight and balance but a mainline US Airways person stays in the other jumpseat. Awkward but just how it works. Agents always ask why we list for jumpseat with open seats in the back, this is why, we are guaranteed to stay on with the jumpseat listing.

 

[Guppiedriver]

It not fun to get bumped. Sorry it happened. It's worse when an other airline person gets bumped for weight and balance but a mainline US Airways person stays in the other jumpseat. Awkward but just how it works. Agents always ask why we list for jumpseat with open seats in the back, this is why, we are guaranteed to stay on with the jumpseat listing.

So you think that OAL pilots should be able to bump revenue pax and/or freight?? It's not awkward, worse, or anything else...it is just the way it works.

 

[Turtle21]

By contract, USAir pilots on flight deck jump seat are part of the BOW. OAL jumpseaters are not. Thus USAir pilots can make it to work (or back home, or vacation destination.)

 

[densoo]

By contract, USAir pilots on flight deck jump seat are part of the BOW. OAL jumpseaters are not. Thus USAir pilots can make it to work (or back home, or vacation destination.)

Same at UAL. I think this is industry standard at the majors/legacies.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Same at UAL. I think this is industry standard at the majors/legacies.

Not at Southwest. Only the working crew is part of the Operating Weight. Jumpseaters get bumped for weight now and again, usually on -300s at higher altitude airports in the summer. Doesn't matter who you work for.

If company jumpseaters are considered as "BOW" at USAir, does that mean that the plane's certificated Operating Weight always includes the weight of one or two jumpseaters? Even when they're not there? I didn't know you could change the Basic Operating Weight of a particular aircraft from flight to flight.

Bubba

 

[ALGFLYR]

I don't believe the jumpseaters are considered part of the BOW. However, if it is a USAirways pilot wanting to occupy the jumpseat, the FOM says they take priority over all revenue passengers and cargo. So they will go no matter what. And actually the FA's have the same agreement. A jumpseating FA has priority over all passengers and cargo so they will go no matter what as well. The FOM clearly defines this. Even if a US Airways pilot shows up at the last minute, they will be allowed on, but load control MUST be notified as it will affect the W/B. So that suggests they are not included in the BOW, but if they are company crewmembers, they will get on, even if it means bumping revenue passengers or cargo...

 

[wood pecker]

Sorry if I started something. I appreciate the 99% of times y'all do get me home. I wish all airlines had this practice. We all know FAA standard weights are a crock any way as far as accuracy.