US Airways hiring

[N813CA]

so you think with the 1,000+ guys on the streets from AA that USAir wouldn't be affected?

 

[General Lee]

so you think with the 1,000+ guys on the streets from AA that USAir wouldn't be affected?

Most have gone elsewhere I would bet. And if they haven't come back prior to a merger announcement from furlough and are too junior to be recalled, they will be placed below current active pilots on the other side by the arbitrators.

You are at JetBlue, and there are plenty of ex USair guys there. Are many of them planning to go back? If they did, they would come back during new hire classes, which would probably not bump people out or furlough them. They would come back during periods of hiring.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[N813CA]

True. Very true.

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[JetMonkey]

Because a regional can be here today and gone the next. Look at comair. It is contract work. Any contractor can be replace by another. It is not just an airline thing.

This is one of the best posts I've ever seen on here..

 

[JECKEL]

so you think with the 1,000+ guys on the streets from AA that USAir wouldn't be affected?

I believe the planned 7 year fence may prevent any AA furlough issues for US Air.

 

[ttuite]

Are you kidding me? FO pay at US Airways on the E190 is pretty much in the same ballpark as FO pay at my regional. Not even close to PIC regional pay. It's sadder than you thought!

What the heck regional are you at. 190 pay is what some regional Captains make! If you don't want to go there fine, but don't just make stuff up to try and discourage others!

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

What the heck regional are you at. 190 pay is what some regional Captains make! If you don't want to go there fine, but don't just make stuff up to try and discourage others!

Uh, what? You must be crazy. E190 Fos start out at $42 and finally hit a whopping $58 at 10years with the company where they have topped out. Of course by then they'd hold another aircraft or possibly another seat with retirements. Just going off your arguement with him that E190 FO pay is comparable to RJ ca pay.

I'm just a little ole E145 captain and I'm at $77hr and I just got to 7yrs seniority. Granted I want to get on with a major without a doubt, but US airways pay is pathetic. If that offends you or anyone else at airways, sorry but you arguing it not that bad is a little scary. If I worked there I'd admit that's crap pay for a "Legacy" pilot.

That's not discouraging, it's the facts.

 

[titans10]

77 dollars as a captain stinks. That's it.

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

77 dollars as a captain stinks. That's it.

Agreed!!!!! And $45 2nd year and $47 3rd year FO at a Major stinks too.

 

[titans10]

Agreed!!!!! And $45 2nd year and $47 3rd year FO at a Major stinks too.

Yes it does!

 

[JudgeSmails218]

Anybody hired the last couple of years has been able to bid
off the 190 and onto "higher" paying Group 2 aircraft. The odds
of you being "stuck" on the 190 for 5 years are remote.

 

[Pattern-Master]

Us Airways has to have a lot of retirements coming up. Every time I fly through one of there hubs it looks like an old age home. The folks living at my grandpa's retirement home look younger than some of these dinosaurs walking around. And I'm not kidding!

 

[The Drizzle]

Anybody hired the last couple of years has been able to bid
off the 190 and onto "higher" paying Group 2 aircraft. The odds
of you being "stuck" on the 190 for 5 years are remote.

Exactly. Other than newhires, people are staying on the 190 by choice.

 

[ex j-41]

Eventually the seniority list gets full and people will get stuck on the 190. It's just a matter of time. Hopefully by then there will be a new contract in place.

 

[CX880]

Eventually the seniority list gets full and people will get stuck on the 190. It's just a matter of time. Hopefully by then there will be a new contract in place.

At least yull be stuck at a real airline!

 

[Flybywire44]

Agreed!!!!! And $45 2nd year and $47 3rd year FO at a Major stinks too.

You get an additional 10% 401k contribution on top of what you make.

 

[screamingpax]

Anybody hired the last couple of years has been able to bid
off the 190 and onto "higher" paying Group 2 aircraft. The odds
of you being "stuck" on the 190 for 5 years are remote.

No such thing as "remote" odds/possibilities in this industry...

 

[Detroitpilot22]

They are getting 5 more 190's next year - the odds of you being on this airplane for a long period of time are as good as you bidding off of it.

 

[MACH-TUCK]

So whats everybody's thoughts about Airways and AA actually merging? From what I've been reading lately, it sounds like AA wants to come out of BK and be a stand alone airline.

 

[ackattacker]

They are getting 5 more 190's next year - the odds of you being on this airplane for a long period of time are as good as you bidding off of it.

To get "stuck" on the E190 would require an extraordinary stroke of bad luck, it's nowhere near 50/50 odds. Everybody who's been on property over a year can hold something else and I don't see that changing. Seniority wise most new hires can hold Airbus right off the bat on their first bid. People stay on the E190 only because either they choose to for schedule or because they are assigned it as a new hire (and become locked for 1 year at a pay rate which is higher than the Airbus... don't throw me in that briar patch!)

5 new airplanes equals 25 more FO's which is a drop in the bucket. Hiring is projected at 250+ per year going forward due to retirements, American is even more. Would a merged airline result in some consolidation of routes and a slowing of hiring? possibly. But it would have to be extreme to offset that level of retirements because without hiring the company would almost completely evaporate in 15 years.

Now one thing that could happen, in a merger scenario, is that the company gets their "B scale" wages on the E190 and also gets the contractual right to replace MD80's and such with E190's, greatly expanding the fleet. Something to watch out for during contract negotiation time. Of course I've also heard that supposedly the E190 rates will go up significantly to around JB levels so as to not be nearly so heinous, but still nowhere near the proposed AB/B737 rates.

But if you are sitting on the fence right now deciding whether or not to apply I wouldn't let any of this speculation be the deciding factor. If you think you want to work here, do it sooner rather than later and chances are you'll be sitting long-call reserve in an Airbus well before any merger even starts to affect anything operationally.

Mach-tuck: The odds of a merger are no sure thing but right now the general feeling among most of the people I've talked to and most of the press articles is extremely likely.

 

[twott driver]

No such thing as "remote" odds/possibilities in this industry...

Well actually there are, except they only pertain to good news/ocurrences. The chances of the worst possible outcome that you never even considered on the other hand? Always very good.