US Airways hiring

[General Lee]

if USair and AA merge there will be too many pilots in the system. If you are ok with getting furloughed for a few years then I would agree it is a better move. Maybe.

I disagree. Same thing was said about the other two large mergers, and that didn't happen. There are tons of retirements coming for both airlines too. (AA and US)


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

You'd think the unions would be smart enough to have a no furlough clause in the agreements. Although, AMR still has 1,685 pilots on furlough.... No bueno.

 

[JudgeSmails218]

if USair and AA merge there will be too many pilots in the system. If you are ok with getting furloughed for a few years then I would agree it is a better move. Maybe.

Not true. If you've looked at the two route maps side by side you would see that there is virtually no overlap. I would see a hiring freeze at worst until the dust settles a bit. The newly combined airline has around 350 retirements a year on average for years to come.

 

[Abernathy]

Why is it that FO pay at the US Airways is the same as PIC pay at some regionals? The majors are supposed to be a step up.

Are you kidding me? FO pay at US Airways on the E190 is pretty much in the same ballpark as FO pay at my regional. Not even close to PIC regional pay. It's sadder than you thought!

 

[Flyer1015]

Are you kidding me? FO pay at US Airways on the E190 is pretty much in the same ballpark as FO pay at my regional. Not even close to PIC regional pay. It's sadder than you thought!

So, I guess the moral of the story being, if it was any lower, your regional would be doing it.....

 

[General Lee]

If a merger would occur, things would come together quickly for the USAir pilots. I would think the NIC award would be implemented, a joint contract with higher payrates would be signed, and then an SLI with arbitrators for the total seniority list (with the East guys "promising" to abide by it this time, wink wink). I believe the AA guys who made a side deal with Parker agreed to a 7 year fence on equipment or bases (?), so after everyone gets a pay raise it is a waiting game until those 7 years are up. But, the US Domestic and INTL flying is not too bad. Eventually there would be HUGE upward movement as the East pilots go away and the large chunk of older AA Captains and FOs. 10 years from now junior newhires would be doing very well IMO. And there would be just 3 big legacies, probably doing better financially thanks to the lack of competition. Also, it seems it can ONLY GET BETTER over there.



Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

unless they all SELLOUT like Jenny has done, allowing bigger jets at the regionals! but hey, those 50 seaters are going away so Jenny has that going for her, what a PUTZ!

 

[General Lee]

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Aren't you still flying in the Mekong Delta? Please stay out there....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[COOPERVANE]

Wow....General makes a positive informative supportive post and gets slammed for it.

Sorry, but he looks like the good guy here.

 

[cbrown1]

Not true. If you've looked at the two route maps side by side you would see that there is virtually no overlap. I would see a hiring freeze at worst until the dust settles a bit. The newly combined airline has around 350 retirements a year on average for years to come.

350 is just Us Air alone, combined its almost 1000 a year.

 

[N813CA]

so you think with the 1,000+ guys on the streets from AA that USAir wouldn't be affected?

 

[General Lee]

so you think with the 1,000+ guys on the streets from AA that USAir wouldn't be affected?

Most have gone elsewhere I would bet. And if they haven't come back prior to a merger announcement from furlough and are too junior to be recalled, they will be placed below current active pilots on the other side by the arbitrators.

You are at JetBlue, and there are plenty of ex USair guys there. Are many of them planning to go back? If they did, they would come back during new hire classes, which would probably not bump people out or furlough them. They would come back during periods of hiring.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[N813CA]

True. Very true.

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[JetMonkey]

Because a regional can be here today and gone the next. Look at comair. It is contract work. Any contractor can be replace by another. It is not just an airline thing.

This is one of the best posts I've ever seen on here..

 

[JECKEL]

so you think with the 1,000+ guys on the streets from AA that USAir wouldn't be affected?

I believe the planned 7 year fence may prevent any AA furlough issues for US Air.

 

[ttuite]

Are you kidding me? FO pay at US Airways on the E190 is pretty much in the same ballpark as FO pay at my regional. Not even close to PIC regional pay. It's sadder than you thought!

What the heck regional are you at. 190 pay is what some regional Captains make! If you don't want to go there fine, but don't just make stuff up to try and discourage others!

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

What the heck regional are you at. 190 pay is what some regional Captains make! If you don't want to go there fine, but don't just make stuff up to try and discourage others!

Uh, what? You must be crazy. E190 Fos start out at $42 and finally hit a whopping $58 at 10years with the company where they have topped out. Of course by then they'd hold another aircraft or possibly another seat with retirements. Just going off your arguement with him that E190 FO pay is comparable to RJ ca pay.

I'm just a little ole E145 captain and I'm at $77hr and I just got to 7yrs seniority. Granted I want to get on with a major without a doubt, but US airways pay is pathetic. If that offends you or anyone else at airways, sorry but you arguing it not that bad is a little scary. If I worked there I'd admit that's crap pay for a "Legacy" pilot.

That's not discouraging, it's the facts.

 

[titans10]

77 dollars as a captain stinks. That's it.

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

77 dollars as a captain stinks. That's it.

Agreed!!!!! And $45 2nd year and $47 3rd year FO at a Major stinks too.

 

[titans10]

Agreed!!!!! And $45 2nd year and $47 3rd year FO at a Major stinks too.

Yes it does!