US Airways hiring

[Baronman]

People don't understand this industry yet and it's cycles. No one wanted to work for swa and FedEx but now look. Now is the time to get on at usair because they have been rock bottom and it s their turn to rise with American. The combined airline will Retire 1000 pilots a year for about 5 years in the future

Agree 100% that today's "choice" place to be means nothing considering the length of a typical career (20+ years).

I think any choice in the industry is a crap shoot and I don't begrudge anyone choosing to stay or leave their current job. Only you know what's best for you and your family.

USAir? Could be great......retirements galore.....Could be bad....United/DL/SWA squash them.....Ya never know!

 

[Varmint]

Do you think you would be in a good position at the bottom of the us air seniority list if this us air/amr merger takes place?

 

[General Lee]

Do you think you would be in a good position at the bottom of the us air seniority list if this us air/amr merger takes place?

He might be. Most of the USAir East wheenies will be gone within the next 5-7 years, and AA has a ton of old guys too, in both the left and right seats. The eventual winners will be the younger America West pilots, and new hires.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Flyer1015]

Why does a regional pilot have to take a 60% pay cut to go to airways?
Actually the real question is: Why is life so bad at regionals that people will take a 60% pay cut and go to the worst airline in the USA?
Not to mention the drop in seniority, vacation, etc.....

Because it's a regional. Outsourced feed! Your liveliness is at the mercy of the mainline partner. Take the plunge early, don't be the next Comair. There is no future long term career at a regional. Get out while you can.

 

[N813CA]

if USair and AA merge there will be too many pilots in the system. If you are ok with getting furloughed for a few years then I would agree it is a better move. Maybe.

 

[General Lee]

if USair and AA merge there will be too many pilots in the system. If you are ok with getting furloughed for a few years then I would agree it is a better move. Maybe.

I disagree. Same thing was said about the other two large mergers, and that didn't happen. There are tons of retirements coming for both airlines too. (AA and US)


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

You'd think the unions would be smart enough to have a no furlough clause in the agreements. Although, AMR still has 1,685 pilots on furlough.... No bueno.

 

[JudgeSmails218]

if USair and AA merge there will be too many pilots in the system. If you are ok with getting furloughed for a few years then I would agree it is a better move. Maybe.

Not true. If you've looked at the two route maps side by side you would see that there is virtually no overlap. I would see a hiring freeze at worst until the dust settles a bit. The newly combined airline has around 350 retirements a year on average for years to come.

 

[Abernathy]

Why is it that FO pay at the US Airways is the same as PIC pay at some regionals? The majors are supposed to be a step up.

Are you kidding me? FO pay at US Airways on the E190 is pretty much in the same ballpark as FO pay at my regional. Not even close to PIC regional pay. It's sadder than you thought!

 

[Flyer1015]

Are you kidding me? FO pay at US Airways on the E190 is pretty much in the same ballpark as FO pay at my regional. Not even close to PIC regional pay. It's sadder than you thought!

So, I guess the moral of the story being, if it was any lower, your regional would be doing it.....

 

[General Lee]

If a merger would occur, things would come together quickly for the USAir pilots. I would think the NIC award would be implemented, a joint contract with higher payrates would be signed, and then an SLI with arbitrators for the total seniority list (with the East guys "promising" to abide by it this time, wink wink). I believe the AA guys who made a side deal with Parker agreed to a 7 year fence on equipment or bases (?), so after everyone gets a pay raise it is a waiting game until those 7 years are up. But, the US Domestic and INTL flying is not too bad. Eventually there would be HUGE upward movement as the East pilots go away and the large chunk of older AA Captains and FOs. 10 years from now junior newhires would be doing very well IMO. And there would be just 3 big legacies, probably doing better financially thanks to the lack of competition. Also, it seems it can ONLY GET BETTER over there.



Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

unless they all SELLOUT like Jenny has done, allowing bigger jets at the regionals! but hey, those 50 seaters are going away so Jenny has that going for her, what a PUTZ!

 

[General Lee]

This message is hidden because Freebrd is on your ignore list.



Aren't you still flying in the Mekong Delta? Please stay out there....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[COOPERVANE]

Wow....General makes a positive informative supportive post and gets slammed for it.

Sorry, but he looks like the good guy here.

 

[cbrown1]

Not true. If you've looked at the two route maps side by side you would see that there is virtually no overlap. I would see a hiring freeze at worst until the dust settles a bit. The newly combined airline has around 350 retirements a year on average for years to come.

350 is just Us Air alone, combined its almost 1000 a year.