US Airways Becomes AMR Creditor

[JECKEL]

http://finance.yahoo...-231108379.html

 

[Lampshade]

The camels nose is in the tent all for $600,000.

 

[charlie2]

The camels nose is in the tent all for $600,000.

Ya really, The America West management team was so good to the AWA pilots (look at their current ALPA negotiated contract) I hope APA really understands who is really trying to buy them.

 

[BUDDHA145]

It's me but I promise I stop drinking!!

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[Old School 737]

It's me but I promise I stop drinking!!

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If I still worked there I would go to one of those brown bag lunch things ( if they still do them ) with that pic on my shirt!!!!

 

[becket]

Meaningless. 600k will buy them an email. To the bod which won't even be
opened.

 

[LearLove]

600K - great that's like 8 years of gross pay for me flushed down the toilet.

 

[AA717driver]

Ya really, The America West management team was so good to the AWA pilots (look at their current ALPA negotiated contract) I hope APA really understands who is really trying to buy them.

I don't think you really understand how f'ed up the AMR management really is.

I'll give anyone here control of AA in 2000 and let them run the airline for 12 years. Bet none of us would screw it up as bad as these a$$ clowns have.

'How do you build the sixth largest airline in the world? Start with the largest and let AMR run it.'

Doug Parker could have taken on AA in 2000 and run it as a hobby and done better, IMO.

TC

 

[aa73]

'How do you build the sixth largest airline in the world? Start with the largest and let AMR run it.'

:laugh:

 

[Daddy]

It is almost criminal how poorly AMR has been managed for the past 10 years. I don't blame APA for going with door number 2. I'm not sure the current US mgmt could do any worse than AMR. Monopolistic pricing power will be good for all of us and a rising tide lifts all boats. Let's hope the US easties go into this with an open mind.

 

[B-atch]

600K - great that's like 8 years of gross pay for me flushed down the toilet.

You make THAT much??

 

[St. Nic]

You make THAT much??

Lol. I was thinking the same thing! Must be a group 2 captain!

 

[cactusboy53]

Ya really, The America West management team was so good to the AWA pilots (look at their current ALPA negotiated contract) I hope APA really understands who is really trying to buy them.

Ummm, FYI....The term sheet / TA that is being inked is based on the current AWA contract (sans some of the GOOD stuff that we do have: 5:15/day, Full pay MECH, Full pay Cancel, Short Term Disability, etc.).

The contract that I currently work under NOW is pretty darned good. I would vote that same contract in w/ the term sheet rates in a NY minute. You can read the contract on Wings. You would get more information that way vs. listening to what your reps say (IMHO).

CB

 

[Flybywire44]

Ummm, FYI....The term sheet / TA that is being inked is based on the current AWA contract (sans some of the GOOD stuff that we do have: 5:15/day, Full pay MECH, Full pay Cancel, Short Term Disability, etc.).

The contract that I currently work under NOW is pretty darned good. I would vote that same contract in w/ the term sheet rates in a NY minute. You can read the contract on Wings. You would get more information that way vs. listening to what your reps say (IMHO).

CB

The term sheet at AMR is based on the current AWA contract?

Thats a very broad pilot-like-statement.

 

[charlie2]

Ummm, FYI....The term sheet / TA that is being inked is based on the current AWA contract (sans some of the GOOD stuff that we do have: 5:15/day, Full pay MECH, Full pay Cancel, Short Term Disability, etc.).

The contract that I currently work under NOW is pretty darned good. I would vote that same contract in w/ the term sheet rates in a NY minute. You can read the contract on Wings. You would get more information that way vs. listening to what your reps say (IMHO).

CB

Hey Eric! The NAC put together a 26 page slide show and briefed the BPR on June 7. It is on the USAPA web site but I'm gonna guess you can't access it, can you? Here are some of what is in that presentation. There is more to a contract than rates and this "Term Sheet" agreement makes every section except the rates worse. Medical cost higher, reserve guarantee lower, per diem lower (1.80 an hour), trip rig worse, sick bank worse, company paid life insurance worse, no min fleet/min utilization rates and others. Ya the rates are better but they are really low for the 81 to 118 seat aircraft (Capt TOS $124) and there is no language limiting the amount of 737 size (group 2) aircraft being replaced by the really low paying E195 type aircraft. Currently we have a min utilization rate in our contract and a few years ago the company violated it but we won the arbitration. My point is when it is already IN the contract and they violate it what do you think they will do if it's not? The term sheet is unacceptabe to us eastinfections.