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US Air Looks to Address Investor Concern

By CHRIS KAHN,
AP
Posted: 2007-12-30 15:28:09
PHOENIX (AP) - US Airways Group Inc. is eager to ring in the new year after getting beat up on Wall Street in 2007.

Though the company consistently surpassed analysts' earnings expectations, shares for the Tempe, Ariz.-based carrier have taken a 12-month nose dive. By December, investors saw their stock drop three-quarters in value.

US Airways shares reached a 52-week low of $14.41 from a high of $62.50, while the AMEX Airline Index of major carriers fell to $34.29 from a high of $66.92.

Surging oil prices are certainly to blame for sinking US Airways stock along with every other airline. But the carrier also endured a regular stream of bad news as management struggled to combine operations two years after America West Airlines bought the former US Airways.

In January, US Airways whiffed on a hostile bid for Delta Air Lines. Then check-in kiosks temporarily failed in March as the company combined reservations systems, and a spring ice storm stranded thousands of passengers.

The unions rebuffed management's efforts to merge staffs from the former America West and US Airways. Meanwhile, customers ranked US Airways at the bottom of the industry in service.

Company officials point to a number of reasons to be optimistic in 2008.

They've fixed a glitch-prone reservations system, and in September the Federal Aviation Administration awarded the combined airlines a single operating certificate. They've hired former Northwest Airlines executive Robert Isom to smooth out the airline's operation. And as passengers clogged airports during the busy holiday travel season, US Airways posted its best on-time performance of the year.

"Now is a time where we can all get together, get on the same page, get a new play book and go forward," US Airways spokesman Phil Gee said.

Still, if the carrier is going to have a better year in 2008, it's going to have to deal with a number of issues that President Scott Kirby has told analysts investors say weigh on its stock.

Customer Service

If its customers are any indication, US Airways has a lot of work to do. The carrier posted a higher rate of customer complaints than any other major carrier throughout much of the 2007. During parts of the year, US Airways also had the worst record on mishandled baggage and late flights.

In response, the company has added a few more minutes between flights to help its schedule run smoothly.

"It's something we needed to do to get the airline back on track," Gee said.

"If you run your operation on time, you're not going to have misconnected bags, misconnected passengers. Everything kind of falls in line if you run an on-time airline."

In November, the carrier posted its best on-time performance of the year with 81 percent of its flights arriving within 14 minutes of their posted schedule.

Besides operating on schedule, US Airways also is hoping to make the in-flight experience better next year with new meals on domestic and trans-Atlantic flights. And it's experimenting with a new seat-back entertainment system that would allow customers to pick their own movies to watch during the trip. The system should be ready by spring.

The carrier also is promising to fly one of the most modern fleets in the industry. US Airways will be busy upgrading its fleet in 2008, replacing numerous old Boeing 737s with new Embraer 190s. By the first or second quarter, US Airways expects to finish a $20 million upgrade of its international Boeing 767 jets with new seats and video screens.

Unions

More than two years after America West bought the former US Airways, the company has yet to combine employee contracts for pilots, flight attendants, mechanics and fleet service workers.

The pilots are going to be an especially difficult bunch to deal with in 2008.

They've been fighting internally over seniority for almost a year as staff lists from America West and US Airways were combined. In August, pilots from the former US Airways, who are known within the company as "East" pilots, walked out on negotiations, demanding immediate pay raises before they come back.

Meanwhile, another group of disgruntled East pilots is trying to form a new union that would revise the seniority rules.

US Airways continues to work on its employee contracts, but Gee said ongoing delays with the pilots will naturally complicate the flight attendants' contract because "you can't do one without the other."

International Flights

Investors have told US Airways executives they're worried about the company's lack of international flights, and for good reason, Calyon Securities analyst Ray Neidl said.

In addition to offering customers more options, a robust international presence helps airlines offset high domestic operations costs by allowing them to raise prices overseas, Neidl said.

US Airways is working on expanding its international service. To that end, the carrier is snapping up wide-body jets, and company officials said they expect to command a fleet of 17 Airbus A330-200s by 2011.

Kirby told analysts at a Calyon Securities conference early in December that the airline is growing its international capacity by 15 to 20 percent per year. "And we have more growth prospects ahead of us than most other carriers simply because we are starting from a lower base."

Though high oil prices will continue to dog US Airways and other carriers, Neidl said he expects US Airways to overcome its problems and have a good performance in 2008. He's put an "Add" rating on US Airways stock.

"I'm still looking for only an economic slowdown next year, not a recession," he said. "If that's the case, they should be able to make money in that type of environment, even with the oil prices staying at high levels."
 
"US Air Looks to Address Investor Concern"

operative word here is "investor" kiddies. God for bid we see an article titled,

US Air Looks to Address:
1. Customer Concern
2. Pilot Concern
3. Employee Concern


no just "how can we boost stock price, so I can cash out" - this is what the title of the article should be.
 
"Command a fleet" of 17 A330-200's by 2011 ???? YGTBSM.

PHXFLYR:cool:
 
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He was incorrect about some of the easties forming a new union that would alter seniority. The seniority list is a done deal, set in concrete for eternity.

This group of cry-babys will never change that.
 
Airlines are in a customer service driven industry. if the airlines are unable or unwilling to rise to the occasion of providing gooooooood service, then these companies will have little or no value for the consumer or investors.

Being a investor in a different industry, I would have sold or got rid of my shares in this industry a long time ago. Some people love to cruise for a bruising.
 
"US Air Looks to Address Investor Concern"

operative word here is "investor" kiddies. God for bid we see an article titled,

US Air Looks to Address:
1. Customer Concern
2. Pilot Concern
3. Employee Concern


no just "how can we boost stock price, so I can cash out" - this is what the title of the article should be.

They haven't cared about any of those for years, why start now?
 
"US Airways will be busy upgrading its fleet in 2008, replacing numerous old Boeing 737s with new Embraer 190s."

I see they're finally admitting the truth.
 
I love it when the usair guys crow about their widebody "fleet" and mighty international route dynasty (originated at and inherited from Piedmont Airlines in 1989) - United has more widebody lift sitting idle in front of the hangar at ORD than the entire US Airways "fleet".
 
I believe this article does in fact lay out the plan that our management has come up with - hire someone with experience at running a different crappy airline, throw some money at the shabby interiors, "look into" better in-flight entertainment, new meals that are generally not crappy instead of always crappy, replace 737's with 190's, and grow the international side at a snails pace. 20% growth on a 15 a/c fleet is all of 3 planes...but it sounds good when referenced as a %. Typical froth from Kirby.

The plan is pathetic through and through. I'm scared that this is in fact the best they can come up with.

This airline can only be righted with leadership that motivates employees to care. That will take:

1) More money - not some skewed fantasy of industry average. This applies to all workgroups.

2) Significant investment in our product that gives employees something to be proud of and defend, not be embarrased by.

Doug and team are subprime borrowers to the "T". They bought a crappy dying disgruntled airline with a "teaser rate" mortgage and thought it was a great investment. Now that the payment has "shockingly" gone up, they are scrambling. A little due dilligence and firm leadership in lieu of cutesy newsletters and perpetual cheapness could have steared them into a better scenario than they find themselves today.

They keep band-aiding symptoms when the real problem is our passengers are regularly confronted with employees so disenchanted and disgruntled that they could care less what kind of experience the customers have. Even when we try it seems the system is rigged against us.

No one gives a sh^t and you have to ask yourself - should we really expect more when we're given the bare minimum in tools and compensation?? That's a recipe for failure and it's exactly what's happening.

Until Doug sends a clear message that he intends to invest in and lead this company forward (not just band-aid the never ending list of problems), we will be at the bottom of every list and metric an analyst might use - bet on it.
 
I believe this article does in fact lay out the plan that our management has come up with - hire someone with experience at running a different crappy airline, throw some money at the shabby interiors, "look into" better in-flight entertainment, new meals that are generally not crappy instead of always crappy, replace 737's with 190's, and grow the international side at a snails pace. 20% growth on a 15 a/c fleet is all of 3 planes...but it sounds good when referenced as a %. Typical froth from Kirby.

The plan is pathetic through and through. I'm scared that this is in fact the best they can come up with.

This airline can only be righted with leadership that motivates employees to care. That will take:

1) More money - not some skewed fantasy of industry average. This applies to all workgroups.

2) Significant investment in our product that gives employees something to be proud of and defend, not be embarrased by.

Doug and team are subprime borrowers to the "T". They bought a crappy dying disgruntled airline with a "teaser rate" mortgage and thought it was a great investment. Now that the payment has "shockingly" gone up, they are scrambling. A little due dilligence and firm leadership in lieu of cutesy newsletters and perpetual cheapness could have steared them into a better scenario than they find themselves today.

They keep band-aiding symptoms when the real problem is our passengers are regularly confronted with employees so disenchanted and disgruntled that they could care less what kind of experience the customers have. Even when we try it seems the system is rigged against us.

No one gives a sh^t and you have to ask yourself - should we really expect more when we're given the bare minimum in tools and compensation?? That's a recipe for failure and it's exactly what's happening.

Until Doug sends a clear message that he intends to invest in and lead this company forward (not just band-aid the never ending list of problems), we will be at the bottom of every list and metric an analyst might use - bet on it.



You hit the nail so hard on the head, it went all the way through to the other side.
 
Hmmmmmm,

Happy Employee's = Productive Employee's = Happy Stock Holders and Investors.

Douggie, Start with your Employee's and the rest will fall right in place! Did I miss something?
 
I believe this article does in fact lay out the plan that our management has come up with - hire someone with experience at running a different crappy airline, throw some money at the shabby interiors, "look into" better in-flight entertainment, new meals that are generally not crappy instead of always crappy, replace 737's with 190's, and grow the international side at a snails pace. 20% growth on a 15 a/c fleet is all of 3 planes...but it sounds good when referenced as a %. Typical froth from Kirby.

The plan is pathetic through and through. I'm scared that this is in fact the best they can come up with.

This airline can only be righted with leadership that motivates employees to care. That will take:

1) More money - not some skewed fantasy of industry average. This applies to all workgroups.

2) Significant investment in our product that gives employees something to be proud of and defend, not be embarrased by.

Doug and team are subprime borrowers to the "T". They bought a crappy dying disgruntled airline with a "teaser rate" mortgage and thought it was a great investment. Now that the payment has "shockingly" gone up, they are scrambling. A little due dilligence and firm leadership in lieu of cutesy newsletters and perpetual cheapness could have steared them into a better scenario than they find themselves today.

They keep band-aiding symptoms when the real problem is our passengers are regularly confronted with employees so disenchanted and disgruntled that they could care less what kind of experience the customers have. Even when we try it seems the system is rigged against us.

No one gives a sh^t and you have to ask yourself - should we really expect more when we're given the bare minimum in tools and compensation?? That's a recipe for failure and it's exactly what's happening.

Until Doug sends a clear message that he intends to invest in and lead this company forward (not just band-aid the never ending list of problems), we will be at the bottom of every list and metric an analyst might use - bet on it.

It could be the time to admit the tragic mistake, acknowledge the disease and surgically remove the cancer.

If they could somehow isolate and pare down the east operation and transfer the most profitable aspects of it (assets, equipment, etc.) and dump the garbage and start again, it would be the best move in the long run.

The U carcass was as dead as fried chicken and hopelessly destroyed by their management and all Parker did was attach AWA to the diseased mess. Make some painful and difficult decisions now, get through a fairly short transition period and rebuild.

Attempting to make something out of the old U, whether as part of AWA or seperately is like trying to make a silk purse out of a sows bunghole.

Good luck AWA...........Parker screwed up. But he hopefully taught everyone a lesson (Like AMR did with TWA). Hopelessly diseased airlines should be allowed to run their course and flop. It's better to participate in the fire sale after the fact, then chop down a wall of the burning house and try move your good things in.
 
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It could be the time to admit the tragic mistake, acknowledge the disease and surgically remove the cancer.

If they could somehow isolate and pare down the east operation and transfer the most profitable aspects of it (assets, equipment, etc.) and dump the garbage and start again, it would be the best move in the long run.

The U carcass was as dead as fried chicken and hopelessly destroyed by their management and all Parker did was attach AWA to the diseased mess. Make some painful and difficult decisions now, get through a fairly short transition period and rebuild.

Attempting to make something out of the old U, whether as part of AWA or seperately is like trying to make a silk purse out of a sows bunghole.

Good luck AWA...........Parker screwed up. But he hopefully taught everyone a lesson (Like AMR did with TWA). Hopelessly diseased airlines should be allowed to run their course and flop. It's better to participate in the fire sale after the fact, then chop down a wall of the burning house and try move your good things in.


Tuff merger. AWA (known as America Worst Airlines) has never had it good. Pilots that got hired there used it as a stepping stone before 9/11. Now to merge it with a pilot group that once had it all, but had it all taken away. Well, you can kinda see the writting on the wall.

I remember the United pilots worried once about buying AWA. Saying that there pilots weren't in there league.

Your right, bad merger choice. They looked only at the route structure. Not the employee structure.
 
Tuff merger. AWA (known as America Worst Airlines) has never had it good. Pilots that got hired there used it as a stepping stone before 9/11. Now to merge it with a pilot group that once had it all, but had it all taken away. Well, you can kinda see the writting on the wall.

I remember the United pilots worried once about buying AWA. Saying that there pilots weren't in there league.

Your right, bad merger choice. They looked only at the route structure. Not the employee structure.

........and they'll never properly marry these two operations. Best bet is to mitigate the damage (however painful) and cut loose of most of the U baggage.

At least that way, a solid foundation for the future exists. They'll have a chance. As it is now, it's hopeless.
 
........and they'll never properly marry these two operations. Best bet is to mitigate the damage (however painful) and cut loose of most of the U baggage.

At least that way, a solid foundation for the future exists. They'll have a chance. As it is now, it's hopeless.

Yes, go back to Eagle ASAP! Your future was just sooooooo darn bright prior to the merger.
 
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so why would bedford be pissing himself?

Because he's been thumping his chest about airlines loosening their scope and providing him with the opportunity to be the *gag* 190 outsource provider of choice. So far no airline has, and its obvious that he really thinks it is a significant possibility for him. A major 190 stratedgy at USAirways going forward I'm sure looks like a golden opportunity for him.
 
Because he's been thumping his chest about airlines loosening their scope and providing him with the opportunity to be the *gag* 190 outsource provider of choice. So far no airline has, and its obvious that he really thinks it is a significant possibility for him. A major 190 stratedgy at USAirways going forward I'm sure looks like a golden opportunity for him.
the 190 is flown by us airways mainline
 
the 190 is flown by us airways mainline

For now it is, but will it a couple of months from now?

Doug would sell them like MidAtlantic and other gate assets were sold off to raise money for "East" USAirways. With oil at $100 a barrel it is any bodies guess.
 
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you don't understand the situation very well. Any 190 flown in US Airways colors MUST be flown by mainline pilots per our contract. Sure doug could sell the 190's but if he does they won't be flown under US Airways colors. At Us Airways the E190 is a mainline airplane, just like the A330 is a mainline airplane. Doesn't matter what Doug wants to do. I'm sure he'd like to furlough the whole airline and outsource the flying to Republic but fortunately he can't. We have more than our fair share of problems at LCC but 190's at express is not one of them.
 
Tuff merger. AWA (known as America Worst Airlines) has never had it good. Pilots that got hired there used it as a stepping stone before 9/11. Now to merge it with a pilot group that once had it all, but had it all taken away. Well, you can kinda see the writting on the wall.

I remember the United pilots worried once about buying AWA. Saying that there pilots weren't in there league.

Your right, bad merger choice. They looked only at the route structure. Not the employee structure.

The old peter principle. Yep, that has a lot to do with it allright.

Just like piloting skills, bankruptcy doesn't erode ego either.
 
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you don't understand the situation very well. Any 190 flown in US Airways colors MUST be flown by mainline pilots per our contract. Sure doug could sell the 190's but if he does they won't be flown under US Airways colors. At Us Airways the E190 is a mainline airplane, just like the A330 is a mainline airplane. Doesn't matter what Doug wants to do. I'm sure he'd like to furlough the whole airline and outsource the flying to Republic but fortunately he can't. We have more than our fair share of problems at LCC but 190's at express is not one of them.

Just like the No Furlough in the previous contract. The mainline pilots for anything over 70 seats, insert Mid-Atlantic because of the LOA 93.

I truly do hope the 190's stay at mainline, Delta pilots screwed the rj issue back in the early 90's, but any LOA that comes down and helps the senior pilots will be passed.
 
Good luck AWA...........Parker screwed up. But he hopefully taught everyone a lesson (Like AMR did with TWA). Hopelessly diseased airlines should be allowed to run their course and flop. It's better to participate in the fire sale after the fact, then chop down a wall of the burning house and try move your good things in.

You should really do a little research on the AA/TWA deal, and then compare it to this one.

You'd be surprised how dissimiliar they are, and how little Carty expended for the assets of TWA, and where and when those assets directly benefited the AA bottom line.

It may not have been a boon to AA, but it was far from the apocalyptic event most AA'ers think it was.
 

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