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Supposedly they got the 15 positions filled out of the 150 letters that were sent out. Not confirmed though....
 
grog_sit_reserve said:
I'll bet they have to hire off the street to staff the 190 FO slots. Starts at $41 an hour I think so not too shabby if you're a regional FO looking to go somewhere, but you might be in that seat a long long time.
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I agree with you. I think that a lot of us regional FO's wouldn't turn it up. I know that I wouldn't. I live in CLT and if there was any chance of flying for Airways I would take it. ( would probably move back to ILM)Even if I was in the right seat for 10 years I would still be able to sit left seat for 25 more years. Yes yes yes... In a perfect world.
With that said, if I was a Capt I would still consider it after I got 1000 PIC.
 
BenderGonzales said:
"Even if I was in the right seat for 10 years"...

Don't know much about US Airways do ya?
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LOL got that right!! 10 years will just barely get you off reserve on the junior equipment!:eek: And that was back before 2001......right now 10 years gets you a nice ALPA mag to read while on furlough!!!!
 
You guys are missing the point. Weather it takes 10 or 25 years to make someone a line holder. A lot of people would take a job at the majors and leave the regionals.
 
BlackPilot628 said:
You guys are missing the point. Weather it takes 10 or 25 years to make someone a line holder. A lot of people would take a job at the majors and leave the regionals.
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Not ragging on you, just on our company....well, used to be my company.

FWIW the 190 slots have yet to reach my seniority # even with 150 letters sent out to find the 15. I figure they have 1100 or so more people to go through before the 190 goes to street hires. Best I can figure for the numbers posted is that so far the recall for the 75's and 190 (30 so far I think)so far has only gone about 300 or 400 deep to fill out of the 1500.

I know a bunch of U furloughees just got dumped back on the street by Polar..so they will probably be coming back at least for a while if called. ATA had a bunch of U guys too and many of them have hit the street a while back, I think they are still out too. Gotta figure CAL, SWA,UPS,FDX, and Jetblue account for a lot that will not return, however out of the 1500 it is probably a fairly small number.

Back when the J4J was going we had most of the guys/gals pass. Things have taken a turn for the worse for many lately, high fuel prices has shut down or cut back on the Corporate flight departments and I have talked to many that have been dealt blows because of it. Of course I only know a small segment of the 1500 personally, but the amount out there that is hunting right now is much higher than I would have thought.

Unless something changes I have my doubts that the 190 will go to street hires at least for the forseeable future.
 
8/99-Would not even consider right seat of the 190 if I was going to return.
Good Luck to all involved......
 
KeroseneSnorter said:
Not ragging on you, just on our company....well, used to be my company.

FWIW the 190 slots have yet to reach my seniority # even with 150 letters sent out to find the 15. I figure they have 1100 or so more people to go through before the 190 goes to street hires. Best I can figure for the numbers posted is that so far the recall for the 75's and 190 (30 so far I think)so far has only gone about 300 or 400 deep to fill out of the 1500.

I know a bunch of U furloughees just got dumped back on the street by Polar..so they will probably be coming back at least for a while if called. ATA had a bunch of U guys too and many of them have hit the street a while back, I think they are still out too. Gotta figure CAL, SWA,UPS,FDX, and Jetblue account for a lot that will not return, however out of the 1500 it is probably a fairly small number.

Back when the J4J was going we had most of the guys/gals pass. Things have taken a turn for the worse for many lately, high fuel prices has shut down or cut back on the Corporate flight departments and I have talked to many that have been dealt blows because of it. Of course I only know a small segment of the 1500 personally, but the amount out there that is hunting right now is much higher than I would have thought.

Unless something changes I have my doubts that the 190 will go to street hires at least for the forseeable future.
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More like 220 deep that they had to go to get the 15. They always start over again on the APL and if you start with the first person available and count down 150 you go down approximately to 220. You have to exclude the ones that took the last recall,retirees,etc. That is my take on this thing. If you have other info would you please post it?

Thanks
 
Crzipilot said:
Supposedly they got the 15 positions filled out of the 150 letters that were sent out. Not confirmed though....
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I talked to Charmane this morning about another issue, and she said she was still working on the recalls. I didn't ask her how many she had, but she is not done quite yet...
 
boeingdriver213 said:
2/89. Think I'll stay here at SWA just a little longer........
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Like until you retire??? You will make more $$$ on the 737 than flying the A330. Sad but true...
 
Bubba Dog said:
IF you find out the most junior E190 F/O on bid 06-04 would you mind posting it ALGFLYR?

Thanks
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I talked to Charmane again late this afternoon and she said she finished filling the 15 slots today. Said she went through about 130 to fill them. She couldn't tell me the number of the junior pilot though. We should find out soon though...
 
ALGFLYR said:
I talked to Charmane again late this afternoon and she said she finished filling the 15 slots today. Said she went through about 130 to fill them. She couldn't tell me the number of the junior pilot though. We should find out soon though...
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I assume thats 130 from the start of the list not 130 from where they left off last time around 170 or so????
 
Bubba Dog said:
IF you find out the most junior E190 F/O on bid 06-04 would you mind posting it ALGFLYR?

Thanks
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Still not official yet, but looking at the current APL list, if they had to go 130 deep, that would mean the junior pilot would be seniority number 3442 with a DOH of 6/89.
 
algflyr,

Wouldn't it be more like #3371 if you start at the top? Or do you have a more
up to date list than I do?
 
I was hired earlier than 6/89 and didn't even get a recall letter....so I doubt that it went that far down.

A350
 
No official word yet. I took the most recent APL list dated June 6, 2006, and counted down 130 numbers. I started at the top and skipped those already recalled. The new list renumbers the APL showing all retired pilots that can't come back.
 
ALGFLYR said:
No official word yet. I took the most recent APL list dated June 6, 2006, and counted down 130 numbers. I started at the top and skipped those already recalled. The new list renumbers the APL showing all retired pilots that can't come back.
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I basically did the same thing. Hopefully the official info will be out soon.
 
OK, I counted down 130 numbers from the last recall pilot on the previous bid. My bad. The junior pilot on the 190 is number 3356 with a DOH of 3/89. Sorry for the confusion...
 
Well apparentely the company is looking to recall 5 more pilots, the calls started today. I don't know if this is in addition to the 15, or if they had 5 pilots back out...
 
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5 huh. Geez. Hope the training department can handle the flood of recalled pilots.

Anybody else voting to lift the age-60 retirement?

sheesh.
 
ALGFLYR said:
Well apparentely the company is looking to recall 5 more pilots, the calls started today. I don't know if this is in addition to the 15, or if they had 5 pilots back out...
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Sounds like progress to me. Albeit at a very slooooooowwwwwww pace. This is like watching grass grow in the winter.

At this rate of recall the age 60 dilemma won't matter for me.
 
I have a while to go for recall but I plan on staying where I'm at unless things change significantly in the industry... again. I just think 121 is screwed.

My favorite word is BYPASS.

6/99
 

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