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[Guam360]

they hired BW...why not you??

why did you leave B6 for Ghetto360?

PM me please

BTW I am at Kalitta Air, happily

 

[Guam360]

I figured it out, kook, how are you dude?
BW is in GUM since July 8th, I think. Oh well. He helped me, along with others but hasn't happened.
UPS would be great, especially MIA base!

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

I figured it out, kook, how are you dude?
BW is in GUM since July 8th, I think. Oh well. He helped me, along with others but hasn't happened.
UPS would be great, especially MIA base!

Guam360--

You were job searching way back in 2004-2005 when I was. You gave me some advice on HPA and SWA.

How is it that you can afford a 737 type, but do not have the money to finish a 4 year degree? I certainly don't mean to bust your chops, but there are some extremely easy bachelor degrees out there. Sure you may get hired somewhere without a degree, but your chances are so much greater with one.

If I was a hiring person at FDX, UPS, SWA or anywhere, I would be impressed with your resume. However, I would equate your not having a degree with a lack of interest in my company. I earned my MBA while deployed to the desert. In between deployments I went to night classes. There are so many applicants right now that have all the squares filled. I think it would be very hard to get a call without a degree.

I wish you luck, but still think there is a lot you could do to improve your chances. FWIW.

 

[AV80R]

Guam360--

You were job searching way back in 2004-2005 when I was. You gave me some advice on HPA and SWA.

How is it that you can afford a 737 type, but do not have the money to finish a 4 year degree? I certainly don't mean to bust your chops, but there are some extremely easy bachelor degrees out there. Sure you may get hired somewhere without a degree, but your chances are so much greater with one.

If I was a hiring person at FDX, UPS, SWA or anywhere, I would be impressed with your resume. However, I would equate your not having a degree with a lack of interest in my company. I earned my MBA while deployed to the desert. In between deployments I went to night classes. There are so many applicants right now that have all the squares filled. I think it would be very hard to get a call without a degree.

I wish you luck, but still think there is a lot you could do to improve your chances. FWIW.

G360 - this is some great advice - I agree with LJS 100%

 

[Guam360]

true, true, about the type and money story, at the time, I was at a regional and lots of PIC jet, turbine, whatever, and people /friends were all saying, "Oh you have lots of time, SWA will hire you, you don't need a degree there, blah, blah, I was aiming for a way out of the regional, go to SWA and then launch to something bigger and better.", Bigger and better is just a figure of speech. Having been at a 'major'.
Plus I tried to value the type rating at more than just an opportunity at SWA but a type on something recognizable in the industry and reputable. I figured I would try to deduct some of it, etc. anyway, I attempted to got back to Riddle night school and online just after, actually online because I wasn't in MCO anymore, I was in Naples, Fl and only had online available, this was also expensive, I picked three classes and ended failing two. one was Aviation Law which was a requirement. I then decided now difficult it was and how UN-interested I was in that degree program. I considered Barry U. and researched others. Then soon after JB hired me and I was drinking the cool aid and then recently realized that wasn't that great and where I didn't want to be, now training on the 747, again training on something I know, airplanes, so whether its my time as in this case or money like the 737 type, this is something I understand and do well unlike Algebra and Physics.
I don't know, maybe I could try it again after my training here is done. Thomas Edison State Univ. looked do-able. Any suggestions.
Thanks for remembering from before, and the advice, you too AV8TOR.
I do have the AS with Embry-Riddle which I did while flying the Brasilia out of Orlando for three years. All night classes two times a week until I finished.
I might as well toot my own horn since i am on a roll, I am one of only three US Navy Deep Sea Divers in the Airline business. There might be one frog out there, or others.
Training under pressure in a potentially stressful team/crew environment and possible life changing decisions to be made, is something I do well and would hope is considered in my employment attempt with UPS, not my college degree. As many may know on here, college for many was just a party while many of us were in the Gulf war, and earned good conduct medals and other commendations. (7 years)

sorry, I'm done....

Thanks guys

 

[AV80R]

Guam - if I were you, I'd enroll in ANY online B.S. course and a month or so later go to a job fair and show them in person that you're attempting to get the degree. Maybe, they'll like your attitude (not to mention your experience) and will call you for an interview. Good luck to you!

 

[(o) (o)]

Quite a few guys have been hired in the past year at UPS who are non-degree guys. (typed on the MD11 though).

Maybe that's what you need Guam360...an MD11 type rating!!

It ain't impossible. Like some guys will try to make you believe.

Got your app in?

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

Quite a few guys have been hired in the past year at UPS who are non-degree guys. (typed on the MD11 though).

Maybe that's what you need Guam360...an MD11 type rating!!

It ain't impossible. Like some guys will try to make you believe.

Got your app in?

Quite a few means 3 or 4 out of the nearly 400 hired since 9/11. Like you said it ain't impossible, but highly unlikely.

 

[Guam360]

ok, no MD type for me, upgrade is possible in a couple years, no more crying about the degree, who can cough the available bachelor programs out there. Lil Jerry?
No more Riddle. TESC looks possible, anything else?
AV8OR?

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

ok, no MD type for me, upgrade is possible in a couple years, no more crying about the degree, who can cough the available bachelor programs out there. Lil Jerry?
No more Riddle. TESC looks possible, anything else?
AV8OR?

Depends where you live. I've never seen anything about it having to be a highly rated or even regionally accredited school. Regionally accredited means it's academically respected, while nationally accredited means you won't be getting accepted into Harvard grad school with that degree. Look for ones that advertise that they are nationally acrredited, which again does not mean much in the academic world. All you want to have is the ability to put that you have a bachelors degree on a resume right?

Try American Military University, which is now American National University I think.

 

[AV80R]

ok, no MD type for me, upgrade is possible in a couple years, no more crying about the degree, who can cough the available bachelor programs out there. Lil Jerry?
No more Riddle. TESC looks possible, anything else?
AV8OR?

Guam – I wish I knew which university is the best and the cheapest to go to, however I really don’t. My former university MTSU has numerous online courses but I am not sure if you could complete the entire degree online. I googled “accredited online BS degree” and came up with several great links. Choose the cheapest one and also one that gives you most credits for the courses you've taken in the past. I hope someone here with better information will give you some additional feedback.

Of course there are no guarantees that this will give you an interview but I agree with LJS – they have hired pilots without a degree however they are a very tiny minority. If you succeed in getting hired, and based on your experience I think you will, the extra effort and the extra money you might have to spend on finishing your degree is just peanuts to the overall benefits you’ll be getting here. It’s definitely worth it! Again, good luck!

http://www.elearners.com/online-degrees/
http://www.elearners.com/online-degrees/aviation.htm
http://www.elearners.com/online-degrees/web-design.htm
http://www.educationdegreesource.com/degree_levels_page.php?level_id=2

 

[MED]

Do you guys know if the FE written is still one of the requirements to apply for UPS?

 

[AV80R]

Do you guys know if the FE written is still one of the requirements to apply for UPS?

Yes it is and it must be taken within last 24 months (in other words they do not accept the part 121 airline exemption) You’ll probably never work as an FE but they stil want you to have the FE written…

 

[cherry20's]

I can't figure out how to submit a resume or are they just not taking them? So you need your FE written and 1000 TPIC. Is there a minimum total time requirement too? Anything else that you might need to be able to apply? Thanks in advance.

 

[AV80R]

I can't figure out how to submit a resume or are they just not taking them? So you need your FE written and 1000 TPIC. Is there a minimum total time requirement too? Anything else that you might need to be able to apply? Thanks in advance.

They haven’t been “taking resumes” for quite some time (1-2 years) as they switched to an online application. You could still copy and paste parts of your resume to the online application – I hope I understood your question correctly.

Also, currently the online application window is closed which is why you cannot find a link on www.upsjobs.com. It’s been closed for several months. Supposedly they’ll reopen it in a few weeks or months? Who knows?

As far as what’s required? Well, 1,000 turbine PIC, FE written (completed within 24 months), transoceanic experience as a PIC or an SIC (once you fill out the online application I believe you’ll be asked which region: Europe, Asia, etc.), college degree is preferred, can’t remember if it’s required.