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[AV80R]

Guam - if I were you, I'd enroll in ANY online B.S. course and a month or so later go to a job fair and show them in person that you're attempting to get the degree. Maybe, they'll like your attitude (not to mention your experience) and will call you for an interview. Good luck to you!

 

[(o) (o)]

Quite a few guys have been hired in the past year at UPS who are non-degree guys. (typed on the MD11 though).

Maybe that's what you need Guam360...an MD11 type rating!!

It ain't impossible. Like some guys will try to make you believe.

Got your app in?

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

Quite a few guys have been hired in the past year at UPS who are non-degree guys. (typed on the MD11 though).

Maybe that's what you need Guam360...an MD11 type rating!!

It ain't impossible. Like some guys will try to make you believe.

Got your app in?

Quite a few means 3 or 4 out of the nearly 400 hired since 9/11. Like you said it ain't impossible, but highly unlikely.

 

[Guam360]

ok, no MD type for me, upgrade is possible in a couple years, no more crying about the degree, who can cough the available bachelor programs out there. Lil Jerry?
No more Riddle. TESC looks possible, anything else?
AV8OR?

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

ok, no MD type for me, upgrade is possible in a couple years, no more crying about the degree, who can cough the available bachelor programs out there. Lil Jerry?
No more Riddle. TESC looks possible, anything else?
AV8OR?

Depends where you live. I've never seen anything about it having to be a highly rated or even regionally accredited school. Regionally accredited means it's academically respected, while nationally accredited means you won't be getting accepted into Harvard grad school with that degree. Look for ones that advertise that they are nationally acrredited, which again does not mean much in the academic world. All you want to have is the ability to put that you have a bachelors degree on a resume right?

Try American Military University, which is now American National University I think.

 

[AV80R]

ok, no MD type for me, upgrade is possible in a couple years, no more crying about the degree, who can cough the available bachelor programs out there. Lil Jerry?
No more Riddle. TESC looks possible, anything else?
AV8OR?

Guam – I wish I knew which university is the best and the cheapest to go to, however I really don’t. My former university MTSU has numerous online courses but I am not sure if you could complete the entire degree online. I googled “accredited online BS degree” and came up with several great links. Choose the cheapest one and also one that gives you most credits for the courses you've taken in the past. I hope someone here with better information will give you some additional feedback.

Of course there are no guarantees that this will give you an interview but I agree with LJS – they have hired pilots without a degree however they are a very tiny minority. If you succeed in getting hired, and based on your experience I think you will, the extra effort and the extra money you might have to spend on finishing your degree is just peanuts to the overall benefits you’ll be getting here. It’s definitely worth it! Again, good luck!

http://www.elearners.com/online-degrees/
http://www.elearners.com/online-degrees/aviation.htm
http://www.elearners.com/online-degrees/web-design.htm
http://www.educationdegreesource.com/degree_levels_page.php?level_id=2

 

[MED]

Do you guys know if the FE written is still one of the requirements to apply for UPS?

 

[AV80R]

Do you guys know if the FE written is still one of the requirements to apply for UPS?

Yes it is and it must be taken within last 24 months (in other words they do not accept the part 121 airline exemption) You’ll probably never work as an FE but they stil want you to have the FE written…

 

[cherry20's]

I can't figure out how to submit a resume or are they just not taking them? So you need your FE written and 1000 TPIC. Is there a minimum total time requirement too? Anything else that you might need to be able to apply? Thanks in advance.

 

[AV80R]

I can't figure out how to submit a resume or are they just not taking them? So you need your FE written and 1000 TPIC. Is there a minimum total time requirement too? Anything else that you might need to be able to apply? Thanks in advance.

They haven’t been “taking resumes” for quite some time (1-2 years) as they switched to an online application. You could still copy and paste parts of your resume to the online application – I hope I understood your question correctly.

Also, currently the online application window is closed which is why you cannot find a link on www.upsjobs.com. It’s been closed for several months. Supposedly they’ll reopen it in a few weeks or months? Who knows?

As far as what’s required? Well, 1,000 turbine PIC, FE written (completed within 24 months), transoceanic experience as a PIC or an SIC (once you fill out the online application I believe you’ll be asked which region: Europe, Asia, etc.), college degree is preferred, can’t remember if it’s required.

 

[BiffF15]

I can't figure out how to submit a resume or are they just not taking them? So you need your FE written and 1000 TPIC. Is there a minimum total time requirement too? Anything else that you might need to be able to apply? Thanks in advance.

Go to www.airlinepilotcentral.com, then select Cargo in the box on the right, then scroll down and select UPS. That page will display all the current requirements plus a breakdown of fleet types, domiciles, and recent news.

 

[Skippy]

I specifically asked the question about the FE written and it being current at the ATL job fair back in OCT 06 and the recruiter said it was fine and current thru the 121 waiver. No other action necessary.

SKIPPY

 

[Guam360]

Guam – I wish I knew which university is the best and the cheapest to go to, however I really don’t. My former university MTSU has numerous online courses but I am not sure if you could complete the entire degree online. I googled “accredited online BS degree” and came up with several great links. Choose the cheapest one and also one that gives you most credits for the courses you've taken in the past. I hope someone here with better information will give you some additional feedback.

http://www.educationdegreesource.com/degree_levels_page.php?level_id=2

Thanks guys, AV8OR and Lil' J, I am still in sim here in KYIP so when I finish training I will start something.

...and sorry for highjacking the thread.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Yes it is and it must be taken within last 24 months (in other words they do not accept the part 121 airline exemption) You’ll probably never work as an FE but they stil want you to have the FE written…

Unless 65 passes and all the guys go back to the left seat. Let's pray the company pays them off to leave or stay in the FE seat.

 

[cherry20's]

Thanks for the explanation AV8 and Biff. I wondered if I was just missing the link on the webpage.

 

[wjpilot]

For an online degree look into Delta State University.

http://www.deltastate.edu/pages/1046.asp

This is a link to thier Masters Degree. It is all done online. I know they also have a 4 year degree and for tution they consider you instate if it is all done online.

WJ

 

[AV80R]

I specifically asked the question about the FE written and it being current at the ATL job fair back in OCT 06 and the recruiter said it was fine and current thru the 121 waiver. No other action necessary.
SKIPPY

So did I and was told something totally opposite - go figure, but I'm here now! Also, during my interview I was not asked if I had a current FE written (they had the original copy of it in a pile of forms in front of them) but if it's been more than 24 months since I took it. That implies to me they do want you to have a current FE written, not an old, part-121 waived one... Either way, take the gamble; it's only a multimillion dollar job offer, right?

I went to an AIRInc and also a WAI conference, I talked to PM and PD.

 

[wjpilot]

I got called last week by BT for an interview. I told him my FEw was over 2 years old and asked if I needed to get a current one before my interview. He told me that as long as I have been employed by a 121 carrier, they would except my FE writtten even though it is over 2 years old.

 

[AV80R]

Oh well, like I said I was told something different at 2 different job fairs but BT is the man and he knows what he's talking about, so it sounds to me like you can save the 90 bucks.

Good luck at your interview btw.

I got called last week by BT for an interview. I told him my FEw was over 2 years old and asked if I needed to get a current one before my interview. He told me that as long as I have been employed by a 121 carrier, they would except my FE writtten even though it is over 2 years old.

 

[wjpilot]

Thanks.

WJ