UPS tells Airbus to shove their Plastic tail POS

[Dizel8]

airbus = french...

should i continue

Actually yes, why don't you tell us how Airbus=French. I mean where are the V2500 engines from, who makes the avionics, the brakes, the wheels etc.

Let's look at Boeing, where is the SNECMA engine from, who will make the wing for the 787, who makes the RR Trent, etc?

You might do a bit more research before you come of as less than knowledgeable!

I'll help you, from Airbus.com:

Working with the best suppliers in North America

Airbus spends more money with U.S. suppliers than in any other country – placing 46 percent of its aircraft-related procurement with suppliers across the United States and Canada.

These companies supply hundreds of thousands of parts, from small fasteners to engines, landing gear and structural components for fuselages and wings.

In 2006, Airbus spent $10.2 billion on parts, components, tooling and services with American companies. The United States is the largest single supplier country to Airbus, making Airbus the largest export customer for the U.S aerospace industry. A large part of this business is dedicated to the A380, so the supplier figures in terms of dollars and people, are set only to grow as the A380 becomes more commonplace at airports worldwide.

These firms – which range from large aerospace firms to efficiently managed small enterprises – are part of a supply chain with more than 1,500 contractors in 30 countries worldwide who meet Airbus’ high standards of quality for production and on-time delivery.

An Airbus procurement team based in North America provides day-to-day working contacts with the region’s suppliers, supporting the procurement process that is handled through the central management organization at Airbus’ Toulouse headquarters.

A bit more for you:
Airbus relies on an extensive supply network in North America, placing billions of dollars in business and supporting 120,000 jobs across the U.S.

The following links provide access to websites of some of the region’s key Airbus suppliers:

C&D Aerospace
CFM International
Cincinnati Machine
Eaton
Eldec
Electroimpact
Engine Alliance
GE Aircraft Engines
GKN Aerospace
Goodrich Corporation
Hamilton Sundstrand
Honeywell
International Aero Engines
Machines-Outils Henri Liné Inc.
Marvin Engineering
Matsu********************a Avionics Systems Co.
Messier-Dowty
Monogram Systems
Moog
Northrop Grumman
Parker Aerospace
Pratt & Whitney
Ralee Engineering
Rockwell Collins
The Aerostructures Corporation

 

[G4G5]

Hey G4G5 did you ever fly an Airbus? Just wondering.

Nope, but I flew for AA when 587 went down.

 

[shooter]

What do you bet FDX comes back to Airbus and negotiates a sweeter deal now that no ones buying the things?

I doubt FedEx even wanted them in the first place. My bet was they would sell their slots at a top dollar price but the top notch french company blew it first. Another reason I say this is FedEx was quick to cancel when things started to go wrong. UPS could have used the aircraft more than FedEx, so they kept their order stand a little longer since they really did want them.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Nope, but I flew for AA when 587 went down.

A lot of airplanes have gone down.

 

[j41driver]

Does FedEx have any orders, and will they get rid of of their's too?

Second sentence of original post.... "UPS is the last remaining customer for the freighter version of Airbus's A380 plane. FedEx Corp. and International Lease Finance Corp., a unit of American International Group Inc., canceled their orders last year amid repeated delays to the superjumbo's construction schedule."

 

[donger]

Everyone knows that the UPS business plan for there air department is "do what FedEx does", only they delayed dropping Airbus like a french rifle for dramatic effect.

 

[AV80R]

Everyone knows that the UPS business plan for there air department is "do what FedEx does


I see, that explains why FedEx is getting the 757s huh?



777s & 747-8s coming instead?!

Bloomberg


UPS to Cancel Order for 10 Airbus A380 Freighters (Update5)

By Mary Schlangenstein
March 2 (Bloomberg) -- United Parcel Service Inc., the last remaining customer for the troubled Airbus SAS A380 freighter, said it will scrap its $2.8 billion order for 10 of the superjumbo jets later this year.
UPS concluded that Airbus couldn't meet a new delivery schedule after the planemaker's surprise decision yesterday to indefinitely delay the A380 cargo model and focus on the passenger version, UPS spokesman Mark Giuffre said today.
UPS, the world's largest package shipper, now must decide how soon it needs new jets as global trade expands and space tightens on aircraft production lines. Atlanta-based UPS wants more cargo on each plane into China and other Asian countries where flights are limited.
``It's a rational business decision on both parties' part,'' said Jim Corridore, a Standard & Poor's analyst in New York. ``Airbus makes a lot more money from its passenger planes than its freighters. They need to fix that business. UPS needs to find a partner that's going to work with them.''

UPS, the biggest cargo-plane customer for Airbus rival Boeing Co., may announce an order for 15 Boeing 777s and 15 747- 800s in four to six weeks, said Ned Laird, managing director of Seattle-based consulting firm Air Cargo Management Group.

``They have been talking about a potential replacement for the A380 with Boeing for the last year,'' Laird said. Deliveries would begin in the last half of 2010, he said.
UPS declined to discuss any plans for buying new planes. It now flies Boeing MD-11s and 747s to China and is adding more of both aircraft types to its fleet this year and next. The A380 is the world's largest commercial jet.
Airbus Response
``Airbus is disappointed that UPS intends to cancel the A380 freighter order,'' said Justin Dubon, an Airbus spokesman in Toulouse, France. ``We respect the airline's decision, and this is consistent with the agreement we reached last week.''
Airbus, the world's biggest maker of commercial aircraft, was at least two years behind schedule in deliveries of the A380 freighter, prompting other customers to void their orders or switch to the passenger version.
Shares of UPS fell 65 cents to $69.47 at 4:02 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading, while Boeing shares dropped 82 cents to $87.03. Shares of Airbus parent European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. declined 99 cents, or 4 percent, to 23.63 euros in Paris.
UPS will give Airbus a formal cancellation letter later this year, on the first date allowed under the agreement reached by the companies last week, Giuffre said in an interview. He declined to provide the date.
Stanching Losses
Airbus's decision yesterday to delay the freighter was intended to help stanch losses that may reach 4.8 billion euros ($6.3 billion) by 2010. Airbus plans to cut 10,000 jobs over four years and sell or find partners for six factories due to A380-related costs.
The company estimated on Feb. 7 that the entire A380 program had cost $19 billion, including development funding and late-delivery penalties. Airbus reaffirmed its intention to stick with the jet last week when it announced the new UPS delivery schedule, and the company's decision yesterday to delay the freighter caught UPS by surprise, Giuffre said.
`Good for Airbus'
``It's actually good for Airbus, as it means one less distraction,'' said Doug McVitie, managing director of Arran Aerospace, a Dinan, France-based consulting firm. ``Not having to work on the freighter for now allows them to focus all their attention on existing customers for the passenger version.''
No airlines have canceled orders for the passenger model, although Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd. has deferred its six-plane order and others want compensation from Airbus for delays.
Airbus now has 156 orders for the passenger version of the A380, spread among 14 customers.
``The prospects for an A380 freighter ever being built are remote,'' said Douglas Runte, an analyst with RBS Greenwich Capital in Greenwich, Connecticut. ``The freighter has been rejected by one cargo carrier after another.''
UPS is adding 15 MD-11s and 10 747-400s to its fleet this year and next, spokesman Norman Black said. Last month, the company ordered 27 Boeing 767-300ER freighters valued at as much as $3.89 billion. UPS said those planes will be used for shorter routes and weren't intended to replace the A380s.
UPS was left as the sole customer for the freighter after FedEx Corp. dropped its 10-aircraft order in November, and International Lease Finance Corp., the world's largest plane lessor, switched its order for five freighters to passenger versions of the A380 a month later.
Other Options
FedEx, the largest cargo airline, ordered 15 Boeing 777 freighters with a list value of as much as $3.6 billion to replace the A380s. It was the biggest order ever for the twin- engine Boeing jets, which will be delivered beginning in 2009.
UPS had planned to decide the future of its A380 order after analyzing the revised delivery schedule proposed by Airbus last week, Giuffre said in an interview. Airbus pushed deliveries to 2012 through 2013 from the original 2009 to 2012 schedule.
The order had been in question since October, when Airbus first told UPS its initial delivery would be moved from the later part of 2009 to May 2010.
``Investors will be happy that the worry about this issue is now over,'' said S&P's Corridore, who has a ``buy'' rating on UPS shares. ``To the extent this worry was hanging over the stock, it's gone now.''
To contact the reporter on this story: Mary Schlangenstein in Dallas at [email protected]

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Shouldn't this be on the Cargo Forum?

Apparently it should be in the French Forum.

 

[Mamma]

Dude, can you believe these people? What up bro?

Did you say I screwed a blimp on a magic carpet? Not once, not even in college.

OK, you got me. The carpet, while having much "life" in it, was not magic.

 

[tathepilot]

Actually yes, why don't you tell us how Airbus=French. I mean where are the V2500 engines from, who makes the avionics, the brakes, the wheels etc.

Let's look at Boeing, where is the SNECMA engine from, who will make the wing for the 787, who makes the RR Trent, etc?

You might do a bit more research before you come of as less than knowledgeable!

I'll help you, from Airbus.com:

Working with the best suppliers in North America

Airbus spends more money with U.S. suppliers than in any other country – placing 46 percent of its aircraft-related procurement with suppliers across the United States and Canada.

These companies supply hundreds of thousands of parts, from small fasteners to engines, landing gear and structural components for fuselages and wings.

In 2006, Airbus spent $10.2 billion on parts, components, tooling and services with American companies. The United States is the largest single supplier country to Airbus, making Airbus the largest export customer for the U.S aerospace industry. A large part of this business is dedicated to the A380, so the supplier figures in terms of dollars and people, are set only to grow as the A380 becomes more commonplace at airports worldwide.

These firms – which range from large aerospace firms to efficiently managed small enterprises – are part of a supply chain with more than 1,500 contractors in 30 countries worldwide who meet Airbus’ high standards of quality for production and on-time delivery.

An Airbus procurement team based in North America provides day-to-day working contacts with the region’s suppliers, supporting the procurement process that is handled through the central management organization at Airbus’ Toulouse headquarters.

A bit more for you:
Airbus relies on an extensive supply network in North America, placing billions of dollars in business and supporting 120,000 jobs across the U.S.

The following links provide access to websites of some of the region’s key Airbus suppliers:

C&D Aerospace
CFM International
Cincinnati Machine
Eaton
Eldec
Electroimpact
Engine Alliance
GE Aircraft Engines
GKN Aerospace
Goodrich Corporation
Hamilton Sundstrand
Honeywell
International Aero Engines
Machines-Outils Henri Liné Inc.
Marvin Engineering
Matsu********************a Avionics Systems Co.
Messier-Dowty
Monogram Systems
Moog
Northrop Grumman
Parker Aerospace
Pratt & Whitney
Ralee Engineering
Rockwell Collins
The Aerostructures Corporation

hey frenchy, slow don't with your soft cheeses and fine wine... if anything is 1% french, that is too much