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afpa

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First of all, thanks to everybody for the info on UPS and airlines in general. I'm new to the business of interviewing and received tons of help regarding an interview with UPS in early January.

So, went down to Louisville, interviewed, got the "contingent job offer", stayed the next day for the physical and lo and behold five weeks later got the congrats you're in the pool letter. Also got a call from a buddy of mine, he got the same letter today(same deal, contingent offer, physical, etc.)and the other guy that got a contingent offer from his interview group received the same letter today.

Anybody else get the letter? Did you get a contingent offer and do your physical? Dates of interview/physical? We're all wondering if this is a change in their hiring procedure or not.

I know the SouthWest guys started a thread like this when the pool started there, seemed like it was pretty helpful for them. Thanks in advance.
 
The latest I've heard is that everyone is being put into the pool and that they draw the highest scoring poolies to fill classes. According to the latest chief pilots hotline we will be having classes of 15-20 every 20-25 days for the rest of the year. Also most newhires will be going to the right seat, with only a few going to the engineers seat.
 
Stan, thanks for the reply. I think you're number 7 that I've heard about. Did you stay the next day for the physical? Thanks for the reply.
 
AFPA, I did my interview mid dec, got the letter mid Jan that I am in pool too. Only did the interview and the background check. I am heard the samething about the acore board too. You can swim for a month or 6 months. Just depends on your points. Then again the last time UPS hired and they put them in the pool it took 3-4 years to get out. (3-4 year since the last time they hired form now). I hope not to wait too long, I ready to move to SDF NOW!!
 
PalmTreePilot,

I see you're fairly new to the board. I actually sent Cole a PM answering his questions yesterday as soon as I saw it. I'm not a computer guy but I figured that one out after a while to keep from clogging up threads with stuff that might be off of the original topic, like this one. Lots of folks helped me with UPS when I started looking and I have been very generous with info as I get it. If you end up with specific questions about UPS, feel free to PM me, I'm certainly no expert, but I have been through the process very recently. Good Luck and thanks for the rest of the replies everybody.

I've gotten seven confirmed in the pool replies through PM etc., I'll keep bumping that number up as folks call/email.
 
Stan, thanks. With March 14th being the next class calls should start going out over the next couple of weeks. Hopefully some of the pool will get "drained"!!
 
FYI for UPS poolies. There are around 60 unfilled F/O vacancies that will need to be filled with the next few classes. Most if not all of them should be F/Os with 757/767 domestic having the largest vacancy followed by the 727, A300, 757/767Z, ONT and MIA.
 
Where do you get an application for a flight officer position? I couldn't find one on the UPS website. Anybody know? Thanks.
 
AFPA,
I was contingency hired on 20 Jan. I did the physical the next day and just got the letter in the mail yesterday saying that I am in the pool. In the letter it explained that you can update your existing profile (may improve your points); however, when I logged on and tried to adjust my flight times (trip to Germany, Iraq and back) it was the same "view only" document from when I originally submitted it a month ago and would not allow updates.
Hopefully we will all find out dates soon so that we can plan our trips/lives a little.
T^2
 
Ups

T 2,

Thanks for the reply. I think you make 9 folks now. Amen to hearing so we can plan trips/lives. I'm trying to stay off the downrange train for a couple of more weeks, but we'll see! Right now I've got the flu or something so I've got nothing to do but read flightinfo all day.

PalmTree Pilot,

No sweat. I'll PM you my info.
 
Gents,

Interviewed in early Feb. Thought it went extremely well. Got no conditional, thought maybe hooked the sim somehow?? End of interview only got a "you'll hear from us in 3 weeks and thanks for coming out for the team" Luckily just before I was about to thrust my sword into my chest I got a call that said I was a definite hire and that the news in 3 weeks or so would be good. Intel I hear since then is no more conditional hires, you'll only hear via letter. Standing by to stand by..................

Double B
 
FWIW,

Interviewed in Dec. Got the conditional offer at the end of the interview and was told I should hear from them in about 4 weeks while they did all the checks and employment verification. Hadn't heard from them after 4 weeks so I called, said I had made it through the final review board and said I should be hearing from them shortly. Got a call the following week offering me a position but didn't have an exact class date at that time. Called me a week after that and said I would be in the Feb 21st class. Had 5 letters of rec, all from pilots. Hope this helps regarding a timeline of events. Not sure if mine was typical but by previous posts it seems fairly common.
 
See5Tolip said:
FWIW,

Interviewed in Dec. Got the conditional offer at the end of the interview and was told I should hear from them in about 4 weeks while they did all the checks and employment verification. Hadn't heard from them after 4 weeks so I called, said I had made it through the final review board and said I should be hearing from them shortly. Got a call the following week offering me a position but didn't have an exact class date at that time. Called me a week after that and said I would be in the Feb 21st class. Had 5 letters of rec, all from pilots. Hope this helps regarding a timeline of events. Not sure if mine was typical but by previous posts it seems fairly common.


Congrats, I've heard that the Feb 21 class is supposed to be mainly F/Os. Did they tell you what fleet/seat when they called?
 
DoubleB said:
Gents,

Interviewed in early Feb. Thought it went extremely well. Got no conditional, thought maybe hooked the sim somehow?? End of interview only got a "you'll hear from us in 3 weeks and thanks for coming out for the team" Luckily just before I was about to thrust my sword into my chest I got a call that said I was a definite hire and that the news in 3 weeks or so would be good. Intel I hear since then is no more conditional hires, you'll only hear via letter. Standing by to stand by..................

Double B
Not to put a negative spin on things but, I had a friend that was definatly hired too as you put it. He was in the pool for 5 years until they started hiring again.
They made him interview again and they sent him a rejection letter. My understanding that all but a handful of the 80 or 90 guys were hired. (all hired had inside help).

What really sucks is that this person put his career on hold in hopes that UPS would be callind soon to give him his class date. It was really dissapointiing to me that the company would treat humans like that.
 
FreightNazi,

Said that the class will be both F/O and F/E but didn't give the breakdown. Got another call last week from them to ask if I want to take an F/O position or an F/E position, jumped at the chance for a window seat. Said I would be assigned an F/O but wouldn't know which type until the first day of class.
 
See5Tolip said:
FreightNazi,

Said that the class will be both F/O and F/E but didn't give the breakdown. Got another call last week from them to ask if I want to take an F/O position or an F/E position, jumped at the chance for a window seat. Said I would be assigned an F/O but wouldn't know which type until the first day of class.

Congrats again. Odds are you will be going to the 757/767 domestic, as they have the most unfilled vacancies, followed by the 727.
 
Here is my trip report. I reviewed the reports of the guys who gave me letters of rec but I don't have e copies. Also on loneeagle.com they have a few trip reports that are worth looking at.

UPS Trip Report
20 Jan 2005

This should sound very familiar to all of the Trip reports that I have read.
I stayed at the Holiday Inn Hurstbourne (502)426-2600. There were a lot of UPSers staying there for training and interviewing. The rate is $48 per night. There is a hotel van which will take you to and from UPS Training Center, and to/from the airport. I recommend taking the van unless you’re familiar with the area. I took a 7:15 am van to show at 8 am. It is an I.D. badge area—Nancy or Linda will let you in and give you a visitor badge.
Wait in the lobby area, where Linda will look over your pre interview paperwork, fingerprint you and give you a simulator book to study for a half hour. I was given the MD-11 book. It gives you pitch and power settings which makes it easy if you have them written down on a knee board. I did my simulator with Dave Duehmig a DC-8 captain for 17 years. He was very friendly and offered information if you ask. The technical questions he asked me:
1. What are the T/O mins?
2. What do you know about class B airspace?
3. Can you give me a T/O brief like you would in your current aircraft?
4. Can you give me an approach brief like you would in your current aircraft?

MD-11 SIM Gouge
T/O runway 35L Louisville
Takeoff briefing
Flaps 15 and 95% N1
Rotate 15 deg NU V2 +10
“Positive Rate” PNF “Gear Up” PF
@ 1500 ft 9 deg NU “Set Climb Power, Flaps on schedule” accelerate to 250 kias
Intercept the IIU 330 Radial outbound and level off at 5000 ft
Level Flight
250 kias
70% N1 and 4 deg NU
Turns
30 deg turn for 90 deg of heading change (same pitch and power as level)
45 deg turn for 180 deg of heading change – 75% N1 and 5 deg NU
Descent to 3000ft
0-2 deg NU and a knob width above idle will give 1000 fpm
Approach to Runway 17R
Approach Briefing
Slow to 180 knots
Flaps 15, 7 deg NU and 63% N1
1 ½ dots glide slope “Gear Down”
1 Dot “Flap 28”
½ Dot “Flap 35”
Vref = 157 kias and 0-2 deg NU 63%N1
Go Around at DH (786ft there is no visual)
“Set Go around Power”, “Flaps 15”, “Positive Rate” PNF, “Gear Up”, “Flaps on Schedule”
1600 ft right turn to 230 intercept IIU 279 outbound at 3000ft
190 kias – 5 deg NU and 55% N1
Talk about holding at Damen IIU 279/24.5

Writing this stuff down and having a knee board helped me out. I had it pretty much memorized so that I could focus on my cross check. After the sim Dave asked me to critique my performance. Then he told me how I did an outstanding job and had one of the best sim evals that he had seen since he started interviewing pilots in December. I flew this same profile about 15 times in a C-17 remote desktop simulator at ½ flap setting (faster and a front side approach). I used only raw data with out the HUD to get me back to old school instrument flying. I also chair flew the MD-11 specifics about 3 times before I was called into the simulator.



There were 6 pilots interviewing that day - all great guys from various backgrounds. We were able to ask each other questions about the Simulator and Interview while we were in the break room. UPS is very consistent in the interview and the simulator. Everyone gets the exact questions and the exact simulator.
After the simulator I had a few hours so I went out to lunch with a friend. I then waited in the lobby again for a 1 pm interview with Paige (worked her way up to the top at UPS from a package handler to the head of HR), and Rod (767 Captain ex A-10 and F-15 pilot). It was a round table interview where we sat together in a comfortable sized room to review my paperwork and they asked me some questions. I’ll admit I was nervous when I walked in, but when I walked out I felt like I had made friends with Paige and Rod. They are both very friendly and fun people to be around. They do their best to make you feel relaxed so that you can be yourself.
Questions they asked were:
1. Tell me about yourself?
2. How did you get started flying?
3. When was your last flight?
4. What did you do to prepare for the interview?
5. Who recommended you? When did you speak with them? What did they tell you?
6. How do you know the people who gave you letters of recommendation? What do you think they said about you?
7. What do you think about safety?
8. What do you know about UPS?
9. What do you know about UPS values? Integrity and Being on time or early and Safety
10. Describe most interesting experience within last 3 yrs of your job.
11. Have you interviewed with anyone else?
12. What other airlines have you applied to?
13. Why is UPS your first choice?
14. Do you have concerns/reservations about flying with UPS?
15. Tell a time when your integrity was questioned.
16. Tell me a time when you have failed.
17. Tell us a time when you had a conflict with your captain.
18. How has your present employer benefited from you?
19. Why UPS?
20. Why should we pick you?
21. What is the emergency engine shutdown bold face in your aircraft?
22. What happens when you pull the fire handle in your aircraft?
23. If you are hired will you still fly with the USAF Reserves?
24. How have you saved the Air Force money?
25. Do you have any questions?

During the interview Rod started out by checking my logbooks and paperwork while Paige asked the first few questions. Then the last part of the interview Rod was asking the questions and Paige was taking notes. Also there were times when they both talked about UPS values and about Jim Casey and how his book still applies today in our times. UPS has sound principles which have made it consistently an excellent company. It was a fun interview. I had a great time “visiting” with 2 outstanding professionals who were eager to tell me about UPS and were attentive in learning about me and my stories.
They offered me the job that day and I did the physical the next day.
Study the UPS.com Website, Study browncafe.com, and listen to 1-800-UPS-PILOTS. Get out a video camera and video tape yourself being interviewed (ask those questions above), and read “Checklist for Success” by Cage.
 
I interviewed the second day that UPS started re-interviewing, was extended the conditional offer then a month later received the same "pool" letter.
 
T^2,

Same song here. I interviewed in Nov and had to pass up a Jan class due to a deployment. I am waiting a call for a training date. I would appreciate knowing if you get a call. Good luck and hope to see you in March.

Hawg68
 
Meant to say calls started going out last Tuesday for the March 14th class. Must be the fever....more Tylenol.
 

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