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VaB said:That's pretty standard tactics from the 5 percenters. That is, once you admit you're a new guy, you'll get the "youngster" crap and "you'll be singing a different tune, youngster" crap.
Echopapa said:Cylde,
My first year was fine. I don't work for brown.....thank god. We got paid a "living" wage.
So are you saying that your pay structure at brown is like Amway? A pyramid scheme. Get the new guys to finance the senior guys? Is that how it works over there?
VaB said:Sweet. I already told my wife that I will probably be a grouchy old man when that time arrives. Wait til she finds out that I've been assured that I'll hate my job also. She'll love it.
Echopapa said:Cylde,
You should be embarassed that you voted for a contract that has such low pay rates for pilots who share your profession. Here is an idea for your upcomming contract... pay newhires 10K a year and then you can get a 16K payraise. I'm sure there will still be plenty of applicants for the job. Heck, for that matter, maybe new hires should work for free their first year, a rite of passage if you will, so that you senior guys can afford that condo in florida. Whats that called....let me think...indentured servatude?
There is nothing you can say to me to convince me that 26K / year is an appropriate salary for someone who has the credentials to be hired to fly for Brown.
Thanks to all the Captains that bought me dinner my first year. Almost every airline does that, even the ones with reasonable first year pay. Are the Brown captains buying the new hire's family groceries? How about his children's medical care? Accepting a contract that pays a new hire $2000/ month before tax so that you can fatten your own check is self serving and based purly out of GREED.
Here is a new flash too...not everyone wants to work for Brown. I certainly don't. I would have to take a pay and benefit cut.
I am not proud of our first year pay, but I certainly think that it gives our new hires a fair oppurtunity to stay off food stamps.
I like that. Good luck on your negotiations it will benefit both of us."The rising tide floats all boats"