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[capt. megadeth]

Southwest has outstanding communication with it's pilots.

Am I supposed to be jealous or something?

 

[pacswaski]

I don't think too many pilots at SWA sing. But their pay is pretty much equal to yours at UPS. Probably with more days off too. Retirement? 8% profit sharing and 7.3% 401 K match............Sounds like retirement to me.
But you're right, the only international is El Paso. That sucks.

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

I don't think too many pilots at SWA sing. But their pay is pretty much equal to yours at UPS. Probably with more days off too. Retirement? 8% profit sharing and 7.3% 401 K match............Sounds like retirement to me.
But you're right, the only international is El Paso. That sucks.

I was very lucky and was hired at both. I chose UPS mainly due to the pay since I had not worked at either on the line and was about to begin training at UPS when the SWA call came. It's not a put down on LUV, but the pay/benefits/compensation is not even close. I wish we had the corporate culture and management team that SWA has. There is a lot more to UPS pay than just the hourly rates and minimum guarantee.

 

[Whataburger]

But no retirement, B plan, international flying, Asia growth, nor 4 billion in annual profits! OK, so only 35% comes from the airline side of UPS, but that's still more than a billion. Our relationship with mgt sucks, but I'll take it. I'd rather be treated like a worker and compensated well with great benefits than be duped into accepting lower compensation because I get to sing at work.

Retirement - I think that after 30yrs as a Capt at SWA making $200k+, I should be allright.
B Plan - 7.5% profit sharing works for me
International flying - been there, done that, have the t-shirt. Not a big fan.
Asia? big whoop. Virgin Atlantic is planning on going to outer space. I flew to asia, couldnt wait to leave.
Congrats on the $4Bil profit. Frankly, neither SWA nor I give a dang. Big oil whooped your a$$, bet you dont care. I think that 30yrs of profit aint bad.
We are treated like gold. Most of us luv going to work. Yes, we have to work, but we are happy to be there.
I am pretty confident we get getting "duped" into making $200k/yr for 13 days of work isnt too bad.
Never gone from home more than 4 days, Never more than a couple hr flight from home, No jetlag, Might fly as late as midnight.......
UPS is a great, stable, money making company. Probably more stable than any pax airline. It would make a great career. I think that all FDX, UPS, and SWA pilots have made great career choices.
BTW, every employee got a $150 from the company for Valentine's Day.
I havent sung yet, but since you brought it up I might give it a try. I you ride us on Friday, lemme know if you have a singing FO.

 

[lifeguard]

how..no I mean WHY.. did this thread go from UPS classes to SWA vs. UPS???

 

[Whataburger]

An insecure UPS pilot

 

[lifeguard]

An insecure UPS pilot

Actually, you are started it.

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

An insecure UPS pilot

And you are cruising the cargo forum because....

 

[capt. megadeth]

Yes, we have to work, but we are happy to be there.

I feel like I hardly do any work. Also happy to be there.

 

[Whataburger]

And you are cruising the cargo forum because....

(A) Any chance to put a bee in Capt M's bonnet is taken advantage of.
(B) Heard from a bud who knows a bud who told him that the 727s were failing inspections, therefore delaying classes.
(C)Why not? You've never been to the other boards?

 

[Whataburger]

Actually, you are started it.

Capt M started it. She's been a member longer. My first two posts were nothing but FACT. If ya dont like the facts then step out of the kitchen, or whatever. That's what Capt M did.

 

[capt. megadeth]

(A) Any chance to put a bee in Capt M's bonnet is taken advantage of.

Ha ha....sorry, I have not been drowning in the big brown kool aid pool (then again, who has?). I could care less what someone says about UPS. Ya ain't gonna get my panties in a bunch over that. It's not like you boys (and girls) over there at LUV....at the end of training they all throw you into the big LUV kool aid pool and you are never the same.

Hugs and kisses

XOXOXO

 

[V-STALL]

Can't we all just get along?! :bawling:

 

[TriJet]

Southwest has outstanding communication with it's pilots.

you also have 9 leg days.

I just have one question: How do you guys manage to clean the cabin AND make a trip to MckieDs on the 20 min turns?

When are you going to the majors?

Ok, that's 2 questions. Hey "two" is also a number of legs a UPS pilot typically flies in a day.

 

[airwillydrvr]

you also have 9 leg days.

I just have one question: How do you guys manage to clean the cabin AND make a trip to MckieDs on the 20 min turns?

When are you going to the majors?

Ok, that's 2 questions. Hey "two" is also a number of legs a UPS pilot typically flies in a day.

Then why am I doing 4 tonight in CGN? They too are a good airline, that being said I do not want to fly for them. You know what they say different strokes for different folks.

 

[pacswaski]

you also have 9 leg days.

I just have one question: How do you guys manage to clean the cabin AND make a trip to MckieDs on the 20 min turns?

When are you going to the majors?

Ok, that's 2 questions. Hey "two" is also a number of legs a UPS pilot typically flies in a day.

I'm no SWA koolaid drinker, but from what I understand, the average legs flown per day is 3. Not even the DAL guys are doing 9 legs.
Joining the Majors? Does that word even mean anything anymore? What....file bankruptcy? Unless you're purple, brown, or fly brown airplanes?

I noticed that the SWA turns are more like....30 minutes. It appears that while one guy strolls to get food, the other might help out the trolley dollys in the back......if they're hot. To discuss the up coming evening's activities, while " helping clean".
Just what I've heard.

 

[TriJet]

Then why am I doing 4 tonight in CGN? They too are a good airline, that being said I do not want to fly for them. You know what they say different strokes for different folks.

four legs out of CGN? yikes!

 

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WhataWhopper

Big oil whooped your a$$, bet you dont care.

Not sure what you mean by that, you see when oil prices go up FedEx & UPS use this wonderful feature called "Fuel Surcharge." Works pretty good and makes the customer pay for the oil/fuel price increases and NOT the airline employees. What a concept huh?

I think that 30yrs of profit aint bad.

You’re absolutely right – 30 years of profit is wonderful, especially in this industry. How about 100 years? That’s right 1907 -2007 makes 100 years of UPS and even though I don’t know the statistics I bet to venture most of those 100 years UPS made a profit.

Luv

 

[1800 RVR]

Why do we always have to let these threads get down to "my penis is bigger than yours"? If people want to go to SWA, great. If they want to fly for UPS, great. Make your choice and live with it. What is good for me may not be good for the next guy. Different stokes for different folks...

(Look at that, got to use the words "penis" and "strokes" in the same post...). Must be a Friday....

 

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Why do we always have to let these threads get down to "my penis is bigger than yours"?

Seriously doubt Capt Megadeth was saying that!