UPS Capt. Fired over JS?

[HA25]

PIC authority is a thing of the past, Fedex or no Fedex... this whole business is going to the dumps!

 

[dogg]

Yaak, dude----- no one is telling anyone to sit quietly. But comments and opinions about things that AK has no knowledge of are tiresome..that is all. Questions are great and no one is saying don't ask. And as far as co-pilots watching captains kill them....hmmmm.. I guess if you don't know enough to ask wouldn't that be different than knowing but being afraid or intimidated to ask

 

[active_herk]

Any idea why the captain did this unwise stunt? He most likely knew he would be speaking to "people" for his action?

I don`t think anyone has a problem with Alaska asking the question, just the manner in which he asked it. It may be a matter of semantics, but he could have asked why the captain did what he did. By implying that the capt was unwise in what he did, he is forming an opinion and interjecting here when he didn`t know all the facts. I can see why some may have been a little irritated by this, but I commend Alaska for asking questions. It`s how we all learn.

Freightdog, I just wanted to clear something up. You have mentioned in your posts that FedEx has not installed the upgraded doors in the cockpits, when I know that we are in fact doing so. I just flew an MD-11 that had the upgraded door in it. As to where we are with that program, I am not sure, but it is coming along. I also recently spoke with our union jumpseat representative, and he informed me that we are getting VERY close to a national database of pilots which once implemented will allow offline jumpseaters access to the cockpit one again. I`m not sure, but I think UPS is spearheading this program with the help of many other airlines, so in fact, something is being done to get the jumpseats back. Unfortunately, we all now how the wheels of buearacracy can come to a screeching halt now and again, especially when it is with something that concerns us, but we will hopefully soon be able to get back into other airlines` cockpits, and they will be able to do the same with us.

For those of you out there who wish to jumpseat on us or UPS, believe us when we say we know how frustrating it is for you to not be able to ride with us, and we are as impatient with this whole process as much as you are. We cannot wait to be able to extend the same courtesies to you as you have to us. In fact, many of you may not even be aware, but when our jumpseats are open again, you will not only be able to ride them, but will also be able to reserve them to where not even a FedEx pilot will be able to bump you (and you will still get the 75% discount). I don`t know any other airline that will let you do that.

For me personally, as a commuter I would like to thank all the crews who have helped me get back and forth to work both before AND AFTER 9/11. It is very much appreciated. Take care and keep the faith!

 

[none]

anyone who thinks the few seats in the back (outside the "cockpit") on a fedex/ups plane is "just like on a passenger airline...so why arent th offline jumpseats open" should look up the words Auburn Calloway on the internet....the a fine case of domestic terrorism aboard a FedEx plane and a shining example of why cargo gys needs guns in the cockpit too.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

I don`t think anyone has a problem with Alaska asking the question, just the manner in which he asked it. It may be a matter of semantics, but he could have asked why the captain did what he did. By implying that the capt was unwise in what he did, he is forming an opinion and interjecting here when he didn`t know all the facts. I can see why some may have been a little irritated by this, but I commend Alaska for asking questions. It`s how we all learn.

Freightdog, I just wanted to clear something up. You have mentioned in your posts that FedEx has not installed the upgraded doors in the cockpits, when I know that we are in fact doing so. I just flew an MD-11 that had the upgraded door in it. As to where we are with that program, I am not sure, but it is coming along. I also recently spoke with our union jumpseat representative, and he informed me that we are getting VERY close to a national database of pilots which once implemented will allow offline jumpseaters access to the cockpit one again. I`m not sure, but I think UPS is spearheading this program with the help of many other airlines, so in fact, something is being done to get the jumpseats back. Unfortunately, we all now how the wheels of buearacracy can come to a screeching halt now and again, especially when it is with something that concerns us, but we will hopefully soon be able to get back into other airlines` cockpits, and they will be able to do the same with us.

For those of you out there who wish to jumpseat on us or UPS, believe us when we say we know how frustrating it is for you to not be able to ride with us, and we are as impatient with this whole process as much as you are. We cannot wait to be able to extend the same courtesies to you as you have to us. In fact, many of you may not even be aware, but when our jumpseats are open again, you will not only be able to ride them, but will also be able to reserve them to where not even a FedEx pilot will be able to bump you (and you will still get the 75% discount). I don`t know any other airline that will let you do that.

For me personally, as a commuter I would like to thank all the crews who have helped me get back and forth to work both before AND AFTER 9/11. It is very much appreciated. Take care and keep the faith!

Thanks! I am learning so much on these forums! Lots of wonderul people here!

-Dmitry

 

[easy spirit]

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I want to learn, learn everything I can now, rather than later.

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Boy Alaska,
You must be enjoying all this attention!!

Just one word of advice for what it's worth. Don't learn everything now so you don't have to later. ALWAYS be in the learning mode. That's what makes a good pilot by always learning, not by thinking that one already knows everything!!

Things are in the crapper right now but this industry is cyclic and it will turn around one day. Good luck in your career.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Easy spirit,

I am enjoying all the tips I am getting. I am and plan to stay in the "a good pilot is always learning" mode.

Thanks!