UPS Cancels A380

[b707guy]

I wouldn't want to fly a widebody Airbus. I've seen many videos of A330s/A340s for foreign airlines, and the airplane calls you a retard during landing.

"50... 40.... retard! retard!... 20... retard!.... 10..."



I KNOW I'm a retard, I don't need an airplane to tell me that!

That's only a little worse than our alternative lifestyle pre-TAWS GPWS that pleaded "don't think". Never have, so why start now?

 

[Marko Ramius]

Not to mention even though I'm not called a RETARD on approach, I can sorta read....duh....I tink!

Apparently not well enough to see that the Boeing FMA's call you a retard as well.

 

[penguin22]

TAWS GPWS that pleaded "don't think"

LOL!
Now I'm gonna hear that with a lisp everytime!!
:laugh: :laugh:

 

[Tomct]

Apparently not well enough to see that the Boeing FMA's call you a retard as well.

Not on the 75/76!

 

[Taildraggaah]

I have worked with both for years...there is NO CONTEST between the two! If you like, I could put down that I have flown ...lets see, 75/767's and even a 73 or two...but that is just not me....THANKS THOUGH!

but its cool to brag about the E120...

 

[Tomct]

but its cool to brag about the E120...

Ah....where exactly in my post did I say ANYTHING about the E120?

 

[Taildraggaah]

ah in your profile...

 

[Tomct]

ah in your profile...

Don't believe listing some of the aircraft flown is really bragging....is it? I mean if that were the case, I better put in the SR-71 and SpaceShuttle.

 

[TheBaron]

Don't believe listing some of the aircraft flown is really bragging....is it? I mean if that were the case, I better put in the SR-71 and SpaceShuttle.

Not at all. So why do you list the Brasillia and not the Boeing?

 

[AV80R]

Did UPS order 6 B747-8s??? Let's hope so!

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747-400 passenger jet is no more
But orders for different versions of plane will keep Boeing busy
By JAMES WALLACE
P-I AEROSPACE REPORTER

After a production run of more than 450 planes, The Boeing Co. has built its final 747-400 passenger jet.
The last four planes still on the company's order books have been removed in a hush-hush deal that saw Philippine Airlines switch its order to the 777.
Those two 777-300ERs for Philippine Airlines were among 46 new jetliners that Boeing added to its 2007 order tally Thursday, including 26 787 Dreamliners. At list prices, those 46 planes are worth about $9 billion. But customers typically get discounts of 25 percent or more off the sticker price.

Although Boeing will not build any more 747-400 passenger planes, it's hardly the end of the line for the 747.
Already in development is the bigger and more efficient 747-8 freighter and a passenger version, the 747-8 Intercontinental. Boeing has 84 firm orders for the 747-8, including 20 Intercontinentals ordered by Lufthansa.
The freighter will enter service in 2009, followed by the Intercontinental in 2010.
And even before Boeing begins building the 747-8, it still has 36 other 747-400 freighter orders to fill.

It's been clear for some time that the production of the 747-400 passenger plane was over. No customer has ordered the jet since China Airlines in November 2002. The last 747-400 passenger plane was delivered to the airline in April 2005.
But until Thursday, Boeing had continued to carry four remaining 747-400 passenger jets on its books. Boeing would not confirm that the four jets were among seven ordered by Philippine Airlines in 1993, but people with knowledge of the matter said those were the same planes.


The 747-400, which has sold more than any other model of Boeing's venerable jumbo jet, entered commercial service in 1989 with Northwest Airlines, which along with United are the only two U.S. airlines that still operate the passenger version.
Boeing later developed an extended range model, the 747-400ER. Boeing has 18 747-400ER freighters left to deliver, along with 18 747-400 freighters. Those jets will be a bridge to production of the 747-8. The Intercontinental will carry about 50 more passengers than the 416-seat 747-400. Both the 747-8 freighter and the Intercontinental will also have a new and more efficient wing, as well as the fuel-efficient General Electric engines that have been developed for the 787.

Although the 747-400 is the largest jetliner in commercial service, it won't be once the 555-passenger A380 from Airbus goes into service late this year with Singapore Airlines. Unlike the 747, which has only a short upper deck behind the cockpit, the A380 is a true double-decker jet.
The A380 will make its first appearance in the United States Monday, when one lands at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport and another lands about the same time at Los Angeles International Airport. These are test flights. Airlines that have ordered the A380 are testing it under conditions similar to a commercial flight.

Boeing believes the 747-8 Intercontinental will appeal to airlines that need a plane that seats more than 400 passengers but fewer than the A380. But so far, only Lufthansa has ordered the 747-8 Intercontinental. An early matchup of the 747-8 Intercontinental and the A380 will be the decision later this year by British Airways. The airline is evaluating both jets for what could be a substantial order.
Although industry analysts say it's too soon to know if Boeing will persuade many current 747 operators to order the 747-8 Intercontinental, cargo operators have already made it clear they like the 747-8 freighter.

Boeing said Thursday it won six more orders for the 747-8 freighter, though it did not identify the customers.

Boeing now has 60 orders for the freighter. Airbus does not have a large freighter and it recently delayed development of the A380 freighter after customers FedEx and UPS canceled their orders.

UPS could turn to Boeing's 747-8 freighter.

In addition to the six new 747-8 orders, Boeing announced orders for six 777-300ERs and 15 787-9s from unidentified customers. Those were in addition to the two 777s ordered by Philippine Airlines, five 787s ordered by Continental Airlines, six 737s ordered by Aviation Lease and Finance Co. of Kuwait, and six 787s also ordered by the leasing company.

That gives Boeing 116 firm orders so far in 2007.
Boeing is approaching 500 firm orders for the 787, which is scheduled to enter service in May 2008. Rollout of the first 787 is scheduled for July.
Meanwhile, Airbus is in line to receive some badly needed orders for its A350, which will compete against the 787 when it enters service in 2013.
Russian state flag carrier Aeroflot said Thursday it will order 22 A350s, while Qatar Airways said it is in talks with Airbus for up to 80 A350s.
The Russian airline had a preliminary agreement to order the 787 from Boeing, but final contract talks fell apart earlier this year because of political tensions between the U.S. and Russia.

Qatar Airways had announced two years ago at the Paris Air Show that it planned to buy 60 A350s. It never signed a firm contract with Airbus because the A350 was redesigned to make it more competitive with the 787. Qatar said it is in talks with Airbus for not only those 60 A350s but for 20 more. An announcement could be made in June at the Paris Air Show.