UPS and FedEx

[Ted Striker]

I wouldn't call it sad, but I will be at a major someday, you can count on that!

I don't know about AT a major, but I can say for sure that you already ARE a major.....

 

[freightdogfred]

Fred, you are obviously a former Rosenbalm loser. Go back with the rest of your cowboys to YIP and fly some more junk, I hear USA Jet is hiring!

So far, you've managed to disparage 4 pilot groups- EWA, CAT, Capitol and RAI...
It might interest you to know that more than a few of those "Yip cowboys" fly at UPS, and are quite senior. I've read some posts here by the chief pilot of USA Jet, and he seems like a pretty sharp fellow. You don't seem like the type who takes advice, so I'll end this discourse by wishing you the best in your future, in whatever career you may choose.

 

[freightdogfred]

Thanks Clyde, I really appreciate it!

What a piece of work.... I wonder if your new buddy clyde has seen where you flamed him as well- post #26 under "ERAU capt program" in the training section.

Hurry and go back and delete it quick, before he reads it... Tell ya what, I'll post it here and save him the time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clyde
The only thing I learned from my academic advisor was that he was deaf from flying lears. When I told him I was disappointed in ERAU and thought that going there would help me get to an airline, his response was "the airlines won't hire you". Well, if only that fat worthless turd could see me now!!

Here's your response to Clyde......


Where are you now? probably at some bottom feeder commuter!!! If you stayed at Riddle you would be at a major by now, not a commuter lifer!!!!


You've got a lot to learn, grasshopper

 

[Rhoid]

What a piece of work.... I wonder if your new buddy clyde has seen where you flamed him as well- post #26 under "ERAU capt program" in the training section.

Hurry and go back and delete it quick, before he reads it... Tell ya what, I'll post it here and save him the time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clyde
The only thing I learned from my academic advisor was that he was deaf from flying lears. When I told him I was disappointed in ERAU and thought that going there would help me get to an airline, his response was "the airlines won't hire you". Well, if only that fat worthless turd could see me now!!

Here's your response to Clyde......


Where are you now? probably at some bottom feeder commuter!!! If you stayed at Riddle you would be at a major by now, not a commuter lifer!!!!


You've got a lot to learn, grasshopper

What's your point Fred?

 

[BIGBROWNDC8]

Emery Worldwide??? (Shaking my head)

Sorry, Can you say Staple!!!


Hey BBB, keep'em coming

 

[Rhoid]

Emery Worldwide??? (Shaking my head)

Sorry, Can you say Staple!!!


Hey BBB, keep'em coming

Why would you guys even consider stapling an airline the doesn't exist anymore!!!
If they want a job at UPS, they will have to apply like the rest of us!

I bet the EWA pilots were not threatening legal action against the bottom feeder contractors that took over the DAY flying, trying to get on their lists! Hey Fred, why didn't you threaten to sue them? I find it awfully interesting that the EWA pilots didn't say boo when the contractors took over, but as soon as UPS announced buying Menlo, you guys can't wait to sue them to get on the UPS seniority list. I hope you EWA guys rot in you know where before you get on someones seniority list by suing them.

 

[LittleLearBoy]

OK, so what is life like at FDX??? Anybody have anything to say?

 

[Ted Striker]

Why would you guys even consider stapling an airline the doesn't exist anymore!!!
If they want a job at UPS, they will have to apply like the rest of us!

I bet the EWA pilots were not threatening legal action against the bottom feeder contractors that took over the DAY flying, trying to get on their lists! Hey Fred, why didn't you threaten to sue them? I find it awfully interesting that the EWA pilots didn't say boo when the contractors took over, but as soon as UPS announced buying Menlo, you guys can't wait to sue them to get on the UPS seniority list. I hope you EWA guys rot in you know where before you get on someones seniority list by suing them.

Jesus Christ, are you old enough to be this angry? Did an Emory pilot come over to your house and kick your dog or "bad touch" your sister? Holy smokes!

 

[AlbieF15]

..."bad touch" your sister....

I am to laugh!

 

[Mr Zog]

Life at FedEx:

Much has already been posted on this board concerning FedEx lifestyle. I am not going to rehash it. However her are the highlights.

PROs:
1. PROFITABLE, EXTREMELY PROFITABLE = JOB SECURITY
2. Worldwide operation = Many different types of flying. There is no typical schedule at FedEX. Depending on your seniority you can have anything from around-the-world 10-12 day trips, ATL-MEM out-and-backs, week long HNL-Hilo turns, HKG standbys, week long pairings which layover at you home, to being based in the Phillippines, etc. The point being that flying at FedEx (which use to be week on week off), has changed drastically. The day sort at FedEx is huge, and many pilots such as myself have benefited greatly from it.

CONS
1. We do fly at night, if you haven't heard (but it seems we are joined more and more by our PAX carriers in flying at night, or at least the radios seem busier)
2. Money is the bottom line at FedEx. Everything they do is tied to the bottom line. Employees are just an afterthought. For example, I can fly a plane into Memphis and then jumpseat on the same plane back to my home. When I arrive in Memphis I am immediately branded as a security-risk. I have to go have my luggage x-rayed and hand searched, then escorted back, before I can go back on the same plane I just flew in. Totally outrageous. FedEx's rationale is security is of prime importance, yet at the same time we are looking for exemptions to a secure cockpit. Figure that one out.
3. Only two bases in the US: MEM and LAX. So most pilots are commuters.
4. Should be paid a bit more, but hopefully that will be taken care of in the next contract.

Anyways, overall FedEx is a good company. In the industry today, something can be said for job security, continuing seat progression and hiring, and various types of flying. I was very forunate to get hired here and am thankful.

 

[maddoggiestyle]

3. Only two bases in the US: MEM and LAX. So most pilots are commuters.

Zog, you forgot about all of us up here in snowy ANC!

 

[Mr Zog]

My utmost apologies to the ANC crews. Heck, I was even based up there for almost 2 years. How easily the mind goes. Please forgive me. I guess I get the next round at the Barrel or Someplace Else.

 

[maddoggiestyle]

I guess I get the next round at the Barrel or Someplace Else.

If that's the case. I'll get the ones in Subic!

 

[gear_guy]

I wouldn't call it sad, but I will be at a major someday, you can count on that!

I would!

 

[pipejockey]

Most of you guys are hillarious. All this bottom feeder talk. WTF is a bottom feeder? If one goes to Mesa, Trans States, Chataqua and the like, they are called "bottom feeders". If this same person leaves those airlines for CAT and the like, they are still called "bottom feeders". So what does a pilot have to do these days not to be branded a "bottom feeder"?

Some of you need to get over yourselves.

 

[FoxHunter]

Life at FedEx:

Everything they do is tied to the bottom line. Employees are just an afterthought. For example, I can fly a plane into Memphis and then jumpseat on the same plane back to my home. When I arrive in Memphis I am immediately branded as a security-risk. I have to go have my luggage x-rayed and hand searched, then escorted back, before I can go back on the same plane I just flew in. Totally outrageous. FedEx's rationale is security is of prime importance, yet at the same time we are looking for exemptions to a secure cockpit. Figure that one out.

I was told by a knowlagable source that this was a result of a MEC demand for one level of security for all jumpseaters. Do you think it may cost just a few dollars for all those security people going through our bags?

 

[Swann757]

So how long can one expect to sit on the panel and UPS and FEDEX?

 

[Goose17]

FedEx

Roughly 8-18 months. It has been a lot longer over the last couple years, but the hiring department is stamping out new second officers at a rapid pace. New hires right now can expect closer to 8-12 months.

Goose17

 

[Swann757]

Thanks Goose17. What panel are the most of the new hires going into btwn the 72 and the 10? How is it decided?

 

[Goose17]

All new hires will go to the 727. During class, there may be a bid and you are free to bid other aircraft. The batch of new hires that I was in class with the last couple months had a bid and a few of them took the back of the 10. They will complete 727 school, fly the line very briefly, then head back to the school house for DC-10 school.

If you hold out a few more months, you might get a right seat in the 727. During the big "postal push", I believe some where hired straight to the back of the 10. Don't expect that in the future.

Goose17