UPS Airbus down in Birmingham

[uba757]

Again, we have really ##ing stupid people on here! Who gives a ##ck about your feelings being hurt, 2 people died!! Have some respect!

RIP!!

 

[SENECAII]

How about getting this thread back on track.

What's the latest on the accident?

I heard they have the boxes but nothing else.

Facts only.

Thanks

I read where the NTSB had said there was no sign of engine failure and in the same writeup said that while observing on of the pratts fan blades that the engine could not have been running at the time of impact due to the blades being mostly intact? WTF?

 

[Mamma]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/15/us/alabama-ups-plane-crash/?hpt=us_c2

Birmingham, Alabama (CNN) - A preliminary investigation has found no evidence of an "uncontained engine failure" or a "pre-impact fire" in the engine of a UPS cargo plane that crashed in Birmingham, Alabama, killing the pilot and co-pilot, a National Transportation Safety Board official said Thursday.

There also was no indication of a problem with runway lights, Robert Sumwalt of the NTSB told reporters.

 

[LJ45]

How do you know their age?

I feel safe in saying, "most" are young punks!

Why are you older and one of them?

Now anything else?

FYI...I'm almost to my wits end with this place (FI), it's very sad here to see some of the worst in our industry on display daily.

 

[KaptainKarl]

Latest: NTSB disclosed voice recorder was normal convo until GPWS alerted "sink rate" at :19 remaining on tape, :13 began impact sounds. The last :09 were post impact till tape end.

Also, they interviewed tower controller who witnessed the impact and no distress call was ever made. Made mention of seeing sparks consistent with a powerline being cut prior to impact over the hill.

This was from news conference around 1800 today (Friday).

 

[flyboyike]

Has it been officially confirmed that Rwy 24 was closed?

 

[Varmint]

Has it been officially confirmed that Rwy 24 was closed?

This is all I could find so far....not sure of the L-notams on that specific date/time. Its apparent there is some work being done on 6/24 though.

KBHM BIRMINGHAM-SHUTTLESWORTH INTL
!BHM 08/023 BHM RWY 24 TORA 10060/LDA 10060/TODA 10060 WEF 1308050129
!BHM 08/022 BHM RWY 6/24 NOW 10060X150
!BHM 08/021 BHM RWY 6/24 NONSTD MARKING
!BHM 08/019 BHM RWY 24 TOUCHDOWN MARKINGS MISSING
!BHM 08/018 BHM RWY 6/24 WORKING PROGRESS TRENCHING 1290 NORTHEAST OF THR DSPLCD
!BHM 08/016 BHM RWY 24 THR DSPLCD 1938
!BHM 08/012 BHM TWY A7 CLSD
!BHM 08/009 BHM TWY A CLSD NORTHEAST HANGER 25B WEF 1308040332
!BHM 08/008 BHM NAV ILS RWY 24 DME OTS WEF 1308031700
!BHM 07/054 BHM RWY 24 PAPI OTS WEF 1308022100-1310042100
!BHM 07/053 BHM NAV ILS RWY 24 GP OTS WEF 1308022100-1310042100
!BHM 07/052 BHM RWY 24 ALS OTS WEF 1308022100-1310042100

 

[flyboyike]

This is all I could find so far....not sure of the L-notams on that specific date/time. Its apparent there is some work being done on 6/24 though.

KBHM BIRMINGHAM-SHUTTLESWORTH INTL
!BHM 08/023 BHM RWY 24 TORA 10060/LDA 10060/TODA 10060 WEF 1308050129
!BHM 08/022 BHM RWY 6/24 NOW 10060X150
!BHM 08/021 BHM RWY 6/24 NONSTD MARKING
!BHM 08/019 BHM RWY 24 TOUCHDOWN MARKINGS MISSING
!BHM 08/018 BHM RWY 6/24 WORKING PROGRESS TRENCHING 1290 NORTHEAST OF THR DSPLCD
!BHM 08/016 BHM RWY 24 THR DSPLCD 1938
!BHM 08/012 BHM TWY A7 CLSD
!BHM 08/009 BHM TWY A CLSD NORTHEAST HANGER 25B WEF 1308040332
!BHM 08/008 BHM NAV ILS RWY 24 DME OTS WEF 1308031700
!BHM 07/054 BHM RWY 24 PAPI OTS WEF 1308022100-1310042100
!BHM 07/053 BHM NAV ILS RWY 24 GP OTS WEF 1308022100-1310042100
!BHM 07/052 BHM RWY 24 ALS OTS WEF 1308022100-1310042100

I saw that as well, it seems 10,060 feet was available, and the runway was not closed, though.

 

[Ex737Driver]

Starting to sound like the FEDEX 727 that crashed while on approach to TLH several years back. Didn't they micro-sleep all the way to the ground?

 

[jmreii]

Starting to sound like the FEDEX 727 that crashed while on approach to TLH several years back. Didn't they micro-sleep all the way to the ground?[/QUOTE

The FedEx 727 wasn't descending like a bat out of hell in which the entire crew survive the accident with much of the plane intact. The wreckage of the UPS jet suggest the accident was violent and not survival.