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RedDogC130 said:
I would put my money on a newly winged military pilot over a civilian trained new commercial pilot from the best schools in America any day of the week. I have the advantage to have gone through one of those great programs and I know the standards and experience they train to.

One of the big civ/mil differences is that the civilian guys don't spend quite so much time explaining how good they are.

BTW, I hate to hit a sore spot, but this might be good for you in the long run. Do you think perhaps that any of your attitude came out in the interview?

I'm not saying this to hit below the belt, because I'm sure you're a fine person and horribly dissapointed. But still, I read your message and felt compelled to reply, since (to my eyes) it oozed pomposity. Two messages later, you explain how you really meant it. D'oh!

A little humility goes a long way, just ask a F-teen driver during his first hour in a B737 simulator. And yes, even those "best of the best" often require extra training sessions, even though they went through the training program you brag about.

The civ/mil debate is fueled quite often by statements like yours.

In this business, experience, intelligence and situational awareness are all that count. I don't care how good an ab-initio program is, you still have those three factors that count and none of them can be replaced by training.

If you read the bestseller "blink" which explains how so much of what we do/decisions that we make never make it to a cognitive center of the brain, but are instead subconcious and immediate (think "hot stove") you'll start to understand why experience is so important and sought after. You can explain to a student on a chalk board all day long what a "flare" is, but good luck getting a good one out of him the first try.
 
RedDogC130 said:
The comparision between the 2 types of flying should not come into it. One guy sucked at the interview...me the others did not....them.

And that my friends, says it all. End of thread, end of this perpetual dead horse beating.

I too, got an interview even though I did not have a type in the 737. No job offer for me. A guy in my group was a 1700 hour fighter jock, and he got hired, along with some of the regional and cargo guys that were there. Why? Because they were what SWA were looking for. Period. End of statement. Am I going back for another shot if they asked? Nope. I am not going to morph into anything different at this stage of my life, so I'm still the guy they interviewed and did not choose.

My pet theory on why guys get hired on the second and subsequent interviews is that they evolve as pilots and humans. When they come back they project this and it is very appealing to SWA. Others, I am sure learn to game the system, become better with practice and present the face that SWA wants to see.

So, mil or civ just doesn't make a difference. It's who you are.
 
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Radarlove.....fair enough. Like I said and PHX pointed out...I sucked that day others did not. The end for me on this topic....later
 
Hotel Monkey

I have failed a ride before, so does that mean I just wasted 8Gs??

NEGATIVE!!!

Hotel Monkey,

You could have falied three checks!

It does not matter. What matters is your reaction, explanation or your realization what you messed up on those checkrides. And more importantly what you have doen since you busted your ride.

Did you bust a type? Fine
The next day I retook the checkride and passed! I know now that I will make a left turn in that hold instead of the right ;)

We all mess up, is my point. You need to be prepared to talk about it, that's all.

No matter what the mistake in your life is...

Career, personal, criminal (DUI , public intoxication in college)

Whatever it is you need to be prepared when they ask the uncomfortable question.

Get interview prep, that's the point.

Good luck Hotel!
 
But we are US citizens and you have to travel here to enjoy the freedoms. Sucks to be us huh? A simple thank you for protecting us would do.
 
Lufthansa B727,
Now that was funny! I kept hearing Dana Carvey doing his Arnold routine for the subvocalization. Hey Arschloch, how much of that six-figure salary is your wonderful bundesregierung letting you keep? If memory serves me, about 50%, nicht war? So in addition to all those brilliant laws you seem so enamored of, tell me why you socialist geniuses have yet to pass a law to eliminate your 12% (and rising) unemployment rate. One thing they’ve done is legalize prostitution so that your women folk can always work as "whores" (even on Sundays!). That should bring your numbers down a bit. So Heinrich; is your mother unemployed? Tchius!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4397701.stm :D
 
Lufthansa B-727...You're a WANKER!!
 

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