United Airlines

[Chairman]

570s didn't "walk". They crossed, but according sUAL lore, "they didn't turn a revenue wheel". Which really doesn't cut it when it gets down to it.

We really need to be done with the guys hired in the 80s though. They've had their fair share and I'm done listening to their stories/excuses. All of them!!

Not sure where you are going with the 570. These guys under ALPA's direction were told to go to training just don't turn a wheel. This clogged up the training pipeline to prevent eager line crossers from getting on line fast enough to have a CAL repeat. If you are at all categorizing them as SCABS you are ignorant. The 539 were in training when the strike ended an no one knows what would have been but they didn't have a chance to turn a wheel or support the strike.

Chairman

https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/DesktopModules/ViewDocument.aspx?DocumentID=48661

 

[Shrek]

But one of his SCAB buddies said different Chairman so it must be true.

 

[Flopgut]

Not sure where you are going with the 570. These guys under ALPA's direction were told to go to training just don't turn a wheel. This clogged up the training pipeline to prevent eager line crossers from getting on line fast enough to have a CAL repeat.]

That is the stupidest story ever. I do not know why you guys buy into it. And frankly most members outside of United don't know either. Every one of these pilots knew what they were hired to do. Making themselves available to be hired made management believe they could break the strike. You want to give these guys credit for only putting one foot across a picket line they helped create? You go dig up some ALPA old timer who paid strike assessments for all this 1980s BS and ask him/her which one of us is ignorant.

This is like what you guys came to believe merger policy was. Something you could make up your own rules on and force ALPA national to go along with. Those days are over. Let's clean all this sUAL backward a$$ crap up.

 

[Shrek]

Keep smokin what yer smokin Slick.

 

[Chairman]

Just make stuff up and tell yourself its the truth.

It's not worth arguing with ignorant people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

 

[Shrek]

Just make stuff up and tell yourself its the truth.

It's not worth arguing with ignorant people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Excellent point.

 

[Flopgut]

ALPA: THE PILOT’S UNION

Local Council 171

July 1, 2014

Houston:



My apologies for preaching to the Choir, but yesterday I took an unusually troubling call. Evidently, a Pilot was refused the jump seat because he didn’t have an ALPA pin on his tie. I know said Pilot and have seen him with his ALPA pin on his lapel; he certainly is not the enemy. Regardless of that fact, his family was boarded, and one of “ours” decided to take it upon himself to be judge and jury and deny said Pilot the jump seat.



As background, I’ve been an ALPA LEC Rep longer than most. I have absolutely no ambition to politically elevate myself to an MEC or National level committee position. Michael and I have been totally inclusive with regards to both the LCal and LUal pilots who want to move forward and serve on LEC 171 Committees. LC 171 is the first fully integrated Council; the IAHCPO is the first fully integrated Flight Office at United.



Please don’t mistake this as a plea for guys to stop wearing their legacy regalia. In contrast, I implore you to keep wearing it. I implore those individuals to keep verbally vocalizing your dissatisfaction with your legacy brethren. From an administrative standpoint, your brazen disrespect removes any doubt about your position, your lack of professionalism and your immaturity. Your venom will be handled accordingly.



Don’t ever get it wrong. LC 171 has an excellent record of good representation; we have not lost a Pilot to termination since I assumed office. LC 171 has achieved such success because we empower our volunteers to do what they do best: Advocate for our Pilots. The LC 171 committee structure is just about even (50% LCal, 50% LUal) and we operate in an environment of mutual respect. If this works in IAH, it can work in the rest of the bases. What we don’t need in IAH is any help from the peanut gallery. The volunteers in the 171-committee structure work tirelessly to promote our profession, and they don’t receive monetary compensation for said work. I couldn’t care less whether LUal or LCal hired them; our volunteers are more concerned about where we are going then where we came from.



I acknowledge that history/heritage is important. Discuss this amongst those who share that lineage. When not in that company, keep your mouth shut. Any idiot who deems it prudent to berate, undermine or insult his fellow Pilot is not someone 171 needs in IAH; If that is you, I implore you to seek a Council Bypass and get out of Houston because we don’t want or need you. Team smisek’s incompetence threatens our collective livelihoods continuously. LC 171 has no confidence in smisek or his team. Until the UAL board figures out that the emperor wears no clothes, we need the Pilots to coalesce. I remain pubescently optimistic that we can do this. I certainly admit that I don’t like this merger. But this merger is done, and no one cares whether I like it or not. No one cares whether you like it or not. What I do value is the support of the LC 171 volunteers. I’ll never run for re-election. “Thankless work” is an understatement.



We suffer from a leadership vacuum with team smisek at the helm. The only tool we have is UNITY. Please realize and remember that your legacy brethren are not your enemy.

 

[densoo]

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[waveflyer]

Interesting you post that Flop
You've been all about team Cal pilots

Great letter though-

We aren't at a no confidence vote by any stretch but our air tran merger is done as well and it's a good message for all of us who have been through it lately

 

[Double Shot]

What ever you say don't say the word scab...Even if said person is a scab.
Thank God I don't work there anymore. What a dysfunctional place. A place that forgets its past and places homage to the SCAB!