Unfamiliar at night list

[flyingduck]

I am attempting to put together a list for my dispatch of airports that have instrument approaches but the Jepp plate says "Not recommended for night use by unfamiliar pilots" Hailey ID KSUN, Kelowna BC CYLW, Kamloops CYKA, Penticton BC CYYF are a few that come to mind but I am looking to add to the list can anyone help

 

[Flyboy Sabre 65]

At my previous employer we had a policy of no mountain airports at night.

 

[murfdawg998]

KEGE, Eagle, Colorado
Most likely Aspen, CO (KASE)

 

[SheGaveMeClap]

ASE closes at sunset. It's best not to go there or you'll find yourself on a 30 day vacation courtesy of the FAA.

Some companies (airlines) have waivers to go there, that's the only reason there's any traffic there after dark.

 

[NW Flyer]

Jackson Hole (KJAC) should be on the list. I would certainly add Valdez, AK (PAVD) too!

 

[Rough67]

KSEZ - sedona .. mabye .. not sure

 

[TimsKeeper]

night and mountain

They certainly don't go together very well, especially at the Colorado airports.

There are enough issues with Aspen during the day, why would anyone want to do it at night. Eagle is basically the same thing with a little more leeway. Rifle isn't so bad but does anybody actually go in there at night? I'd have to guess Grand Junction is the closest to those airports I would consider at night...still wouldn't like it though.

 

[SheGaveMeClap]

I'd fly the ILS into RIL at night, as long as the winds allow a landing to the west. I've done it a few times, I just catch the glideslope from above and stay on it. That's about as crazy as we get, our department is pretty conservative.

 

[av8orboy]

Here is our company list...

Day Only:
19N – Camden County, Berlin, NJ
FWN – Sussex, NJ
N10 – Perkiomen Valley, Collegeville, PA
SMQ – Somerset Airport, Somerville, NJ
CLM2—Leamington, Ontario, Canada (no customs or canpass)
W75—Hummel Field Airport, Saluda, Va.

Night with prior experience only (either captain or co-pilot):
20N – Kingston, NY
8B0 – Rangeley, ME
07FA – Ocean Reef Club, Key Largo, FL
MD31 – Forest Hill, Forest Hills, MD

 

[rice]

ASE closes at sunset. It's best not to go there or you'll find yourself on a 30 day vacation courtesy of the FAA.

Some companies (airlines) have waivers to go there, that's the only reason there's any traffic there after dark.

It does??????
Might want to re-check that info. There are literally dozens of operators who routinely fly into KASE at night, including 91 and 135 ops.
My latest info has the airport open until 2300LT for arrivals and 2230LT for departures.

 

[SheGaveMeClap]

Whoops. Sorry about that. I guess I'm ignorant to that fact since we don't fly in there at night. Didn't ASE close at sunset awhile back? I didn't know it changed because it didn't really apply to us.

P.S. I tried to edit my previous post but it wouldn't let me. When did that change?

 

[honeycomb]

Hey Av8orBoy....


I thought 07FA (aka Ocean Reef) is VFR/Daytime only. Is it true that you go in there at night?

I wouldn't go in there at night....and I have about 2 dozen day time trips under my belt.

 

[SabreFlyR]

Whoops. Sorry about that. I guess I'm ignorant to that fact since we don't fly in there at night. Didn't ASE close at sunset awhile back? I didn't know it changed because it didn't really apply to us.

P.S. I tried to edit my previous post but it wouldn't let me. When did that change?

I don't believe the airport ever closed at sunset, but the approaches are not authorized after sunset -- so vfr ops only.

 

[SheGaveMeClap]

Maybe that's what I was thinking of. Beats me.

 

[G100driver]

If you want a good guideline you should use the NetJets list of no night ops airports. Even if you are familar, you still might not want to go there at night.

 

[ag2pilot]

If you want a good guideline you should use the NetJets list of no night ops airports. Even if you are familar, you still might not want to go there at night.

Can anybody here supply that list?

 

[murfdawg998]

It does??????
Might want to re-check that info. There are literally dozens of operators who routinely fly into KASE at night, including 91 and 135 ops.
My latest info has the airport open until 2300LT for arrivals and 2230LT for departures.

rice, as usual, is correct...i believe there is a fairly large operator based at ASE with AX in their tail numbers. I forget their name...I wanna say Aspen Extreme, but that reminds of the cheesy skiing movie.

MURF

 

[av8orboy]

Hey Av8orBoy....


I thought 07FA (aka Ocean Reef) is VFR/Daytime only. Is it true that you go in there at night?

I wouldn't go in there at night....and I have about 2 dozen day time trips under my belt.

Whats the problem with 4500' w/lights?

 

[honeycomb]

In the ole' days we took Lear 24/35's in and out (before the 24 ban) during daytime ops.

1) I thought it was a night curfew (by owners of the little community).
2) I thought it was tight back then (width wise).
3) VFR only
4) Special procedures for takeoff (noise abaitment). I don't like pulling lots of power off at a high deck angle at night over water looking for traffic.
5) I had my hand on the drag chute the whole time.
6) I don't remember it at 4500'.
7) Lights aren't good enough. I want a PAPPPPPPPPPIe too.

Just some thoughts. I wouldn't go in and out at night.

Summary:
I thought that the owners wouldn't allow it. And, the more I age and experience in this profession the more I know now I wouldn't put my life on the line going in at night (having done it during the day...of course it depends on the equipment flown too).