Uncle Rico and D-0/ Auto-board

[Papa Woody]

ASA's historic solution to all ramp problems:

Require the crews to show up even earlier so they have more time to do everyone else's job!

 

[John Pennekamp]

I've only been at ASA for 7 years, but in that time this is the 3rd time I've seen this exact same thing done. "Let's change the timeline, and that'll fix the problem". We've slowly moved from having to be on the a/c 30 prior, to 45, now 55; and on time hasn't changed much. I'm preaching to the choir, but obviously the problem isn't (always) us. It's the other 95% of the operation that needs to be fixed, ie accountability. Until they do that, nothing will change. Especially with all the BS late coding of 'late check list' and the like.

I'm outey - good luck with all that.

This is proof that what I've been saying about Uncle Rico all along is true. He's just another in a long line of clueless pretty faces who talk big, but don't have the power or knowledge to change anything.

 

[Donsa320]

Duty in 60 min prior.
Check mailbox 59 min prior
Take a look at wx 58 min prior
Find flight kit 57 min prior
Run from C to airplane in 2 min.

Yeah, this is a great idea.

And by the way, what's the delay code for "had to take a leak at the outstation"?

Don't know about a simple leak but...years ago we had a delay code... COC....Captain On Crapper.

DC

 

[John Pennekamp]

ASA's historic solution to all ramp problems:

Require the crews to show up even earlier so they have more time to do everyone else's job!

I know a GREAT solution to that. Everybody go back to DO YOUR JOB AND NOTHING MORE like we did in September.

 

[PositionandHold]

I love it when we get the Cargo Load Report 5 minutes after departure time.

 

[John Pennekamp]

I love it when we get the Cargo Load Report 5 minutes after departure time.

Crew delay! Late completion of checklist!

 

[homerjdispatch]

Im starting a new campaign! John Pennekamp for President of ASA. He has all the answers...

And i think he may give the old General Lee a run for his money on number of posts in a 24 hour period!!!!

 

[John Pennekamp]

Im starting a new campaign! John Pennekamp for President of ASA. He has all the answers...

And i think he may give the old General Lee a run for his money on number of posts in a 24 hour period!!!!

How do you dispatchers have so much time to surf the internet at work? It seems like you and xpoo are on here as much as I am. You're just not quick enough intellectually think up witty responses. Touche'!

 

[Snapperhead]

I'm been sending in the reason why we are delayed to the dispatcher via ACARS, or calling them and it seems to work. We (pilots and flight attendants) are not to blame for delays. The gate, fuelers, rampers (late bags, not being there to marshall us in/push us off the gate, etc...) are the reason for so many delays.

BTW, 79%...38hrs so far this month as a 200 Cpt. on reserve. WTFO? They won't leave me alone. You can fly my trips from now on; I'm serious.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

This airline sucks, again. So now what we're gonna have is some welfare mommas coding it a crew delay if you show up at :54 prior, yet the paperwork is late, fuel, and everything else. ASA management, this won't fix the problem. And guess what? I'm again finished doing everyone's job. "One call does it all".

 

[crjskipper]

got verification today. we dont board at 25, like i thought sh said. the 55 is when the release is printed, not when we have to be there. we board as normal, just have to be ready at 25. there is no time we have to be there, just ready in time. i think that is actually better.

and we are supposed to get the paperwork from the gate before we go to the plane to keep them from coming to us and asking if we are ready to board.

 

[sweptback]

got verification today. we dont board at 25, like i thought sh said. the 55 is when the release is printed, not when we have to be there. we board as normal, just have to be ready at 25. there is no time we have to be there, just ready in time. i think that is actually better.

and we are supposed to get the paperwork from the gate before we go to the plane to keep them from coming to us and asking if we are ready to board.

Exactly! You will need to be at the plane before boarding, not 55 prior. As long as you don't cause a delay in boarding because the airplane isn't ready, then you can show up whenever you feel comfortable.

All the rest of you, you guys need to read better. I thought the chart was pretty obvious... the areas in between the times are just that, in this case somewhere between 55 prior and 25 prior.

 

[sweptback]

Serious question...how can they make an arbitrary decision that you have to come to work earlier? Doesn't your contract spell that out? Seems like you should get paid block time to make up the difference.

It wasn't an arbitrary decision, nothing was changed. The contractual report time is still 60 minutes prior in hubs and 45 minutes in outstations. Last time the report time changed (from 45 in hubs to 60) the company and union had to agree on a letter of agreement modifying the contract, and the pilots got a raise as a result.

 

[snozberry]

I agree, I just looked at the memo. It's the exact same as our old timeline except now we get the paper work 8 min. prior and the door closes 3 min. prior. Nothing else has changed, including the automatic boarding 25 min. prior. It's not new. It's the same piece of sheet with a new paint job (he used much more colors on his timeline compared to the old one). It will do absolutely nothing to improve the problem. I did notice one big change though, I see that we are now suppose to board immediately after the last passenger gets off on late inbounds and quickturns. That should solve the problem of having to wait 30 min. for cleaning.

 

[John Pennekamp]

I did notice one big change though, I see that we are now suppose to board immediately after the last passenger gets off on late inbounds and quickturns. That should solve the problem of having to wait 30 min. for cleaning.

"The company shall recognize crew nutritional needs during duty periods involving flight operations".

 

[John Pennekamp]

It wasn't an arbitrary decision, nothing was changed. The contractual report time is still 60 minutes prior in hubs and 45 minutes in outstations. Last time the report time changed (from 45 in hubs to 60) the company and union had to agree on a letter of agreement modifying the contract, and the pilots got a raise as a result.

Well actually, that was LOA 29. In exchange for the CR7 pay rate, ALPA gave them a concession of a 1 hour show time. And everybody else got a whopping 0.05% (that's half a percent) raise to make up for it. Glad we didn't spend it all in one place!!!!

 

[damnflyboy]

How the heck am I supposed to make it to the plane in 2 minutes? Doesn't Brad know how hard it is to run in Doc Martens while wearing a ski jacket with a backpack on? Geez Louise!!!!

08M: Crew Late Checklist.

Why...we shall ride Uncle Rico's mustache like a magic carpet, my dear fellow! For we are living in the magical cupcake and gumdrop land of make-believe! disclaimer: This reply makes about as much sense as blaming the crew for the delay.

 

[Richard Gozinya]

Why...we shall ride Uncle Rico's mustache like a magic carpet

You can ride his mustache if you want, not me!

Dick

 

[Stifler's Mom]

You can ride his mustache if you want, not me!

Dick

HA HA HA.:laugh:

 

[shamrock]

Quote:
Originally Posted by PositionandHold
I love it when we get the Cargo Load Report 5 minutes after departure time.

Crew delay! Late completion of checklist!


This would be funny if it wasn't so true. Had this exact situation (twice) on the first flight from the overnight this week.