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mblackey

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Received the official TSO certification letter from the FAA today.

UFlyMike Headset is TSO certified under C-139.

Details and info for current UFM owners on the website soon.

Mike
 
awesome mike, thanks for the info. love the product, works great in the lear 35. somebody told me that SWA pilots weren't allowed to use them anymore, any truth to that?
 
Congrats!!!!

Now if only I had some money and a job I would totally eBay the headphones and buy the mic!

Hope to soon!
 
What I would pay to see the faces of the Bose people right now!!!:angryfire

Congrats Mike, great product!:beer:





eP.
 
Mike,
I love the headset and I need some more of your cards. I handed the ones you gave me out like candy. Awesome headset!!!
 
The former lack of TSO was the hurdle. Now everybody can use 'em.

Regretfully, no. QX added a provision to our FOM that any ANR headset must fail-safe when the battery dies, in addition to our TSO requirement. Therefore, the QC is not an approved headset for our operations.

Hope that silliness doesn't spread to other carriers.
 
Schweet!! Great product. It sure makes listening to "No Shoes Radio" on XM hassle free, especially when you're on a long run in the Gulfstream.

Thanks again Mike!
 
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QUESTION: Is it just the UFlyMike adapter that received TSO cert. or the adapter AND Headset?

The TSO certification states:

UFlyMike Aviation Headset AND UFlyMike Adapter.

Also true about the earbud. The QC2 is a mechanical headband that provides ANR and redundant audio capability. The earbud operates independently of the QC2. You don't even need to have it in your ear, just in the earcup so you will know if the QC2 audio has failed.

Wonder how those other headset companies make headsets that NEVER fail and NEVER do so without warning...

Mike
 
The TSO certification states:

UFlyMike Aviation Headset AND UFlyMike Adapter.

Also true about the earbud. The QC2 is a mechanical headband that provides ANR and redundant audio capability. The earbud operates independently of the QC2. You don't even need to have it in your ear, just in the earcup so you will know if the QC2 audio has failed.

Wonder how those other headset companies make headsets that NEVER fail and NEVER do so without warning...

Mike

Mike, Just so I understand... The TSO applies to both the UFlyMike Adapter AND the Bose headset?

You typed "UFlyMike Aviation Headset", which, in my mind, is speaking for Bose.

Don't get me wrong, I want one, bad! But, my employer may try to say that only a part of the headset is TSO'd, and accordingly forbade it. In other words, under the newly-issued TSO, they absolutely 100% cannot do this?

Thanks, Mike.
 
Congrats... This will boost sales big time.
So how did it work? Did the adapter change, the standards change or was it just a matter of convincing the Feds that it always had always met the requirements?
 
W-dog,

The QC2 is used as a mechanical headband. If your company only requires a boom mic, you don't need to use the earbud and may use the audio from the QC2 instead of the earbud.

If anyone asks if the QC2 is TSO'd answer is "no" because no single component of a TSO'd article is TSO'd independently. It would be like asking if the resistors are TSO'd....

Does the QC2 cause any issues, if used, i.e., RF or EM interference? No. Does it alter the electronic circuitry in any way? No.

Poa,

The TSO'd version is externally identical to all previous versions. Internally, the chanages were minimal. A TSO is about manufacturing standards, not reliability, safety or performance. The performance standards which are described are MINIMUM standards established in the 1950s. The whole thing is ridiculous.

Mike
 
W-dog,

The QC2 is used as a mechanical headband. If your company only requires a boom mic, you don't need to use the earbud and may use the audio from the QC2 instead of the earbud.

If anyone asks if the QC2 is TSO'd answer is "no" because no single component of a TSO'd article is TSO'd independently. It would be like asking if the resistors are TSO'd....

Does the QC2 cause any issues, if used, i.e., RF or EM interference? No. Does it alter the electronic circuitry in any way? No.

Poa,

The TSO'd version is externally identical to all previous versions. Internally, the chanages were minimal. A TSO is about manufacturing standards, not reliability, safety or performance. The performance standards which are described are MINIMUM standards established in the 1950s. The whole thing is ridiculous.

Mike

So only the UFM component is TSO'd? Not the Bose Component? Need a yes/no answer for each (considering the unit for myself). Thanks.

Peace.

Rekks
 
Is the tso available for reading? I'm confused as well. I read that a tso is about manufacturing standards, so how is it that the tso makes it acceptable to use the qc2/ufm combination more so than before. The qc2 is still not tso'd and the combination is apparently not tso'd.

Also, on your website I see no earbud on any of the example ufm adapters, nor did I see reference to it.
 
Is the tso available for reading? I'm confused as well. I read that a tso is about manufacturing standards, so how is it that the tso makes it acceptable to use the qc2/ufm combination more so than before. The qc2 is still not tso'd and the combination is apparently not tso'd.

Also, on your website I see no earbud on any of the example ufm adapters, nor did I see reference to it.

We haven't posted all the info on the website yet. We did update some of the info today, but we still need to finalize availability of the TSO'd version, which includes the earbud. Be patient, please.

The FAA has inspected our product and manufacturing. They issued us a TSO, based on the design you see advertised and in use for the past 3+ years. The certification letter is so generic you wouldn't gain anything from reading it. I can assure you it states "UFlyMike Headset" AND "UFlyMike Headset Adapter" as separate entities. There is nothing in the certification letter that describes the parts that comprise each. That info is buried deep within the FAA files with our application. That info is also NOT for public record.

The UFM adapter is TSO'd as a stand alone device. When used with a mechanical headband (of choice), along with an approved earbud (announced soon), it is a TSO'd headset. If you choose to use a QC2 as a headband, you have not voided the TSO.

The QC2 is not TSO'd as a stand alone device. it does not need to be. The earbud is not TSO'd as a stand alone device. It does not need to be. The Knowles Acoustics boom microphone is not TSO'd as a stand alone device. It does not need to be...

For the managers and Feds out there who feel a TSO means something, we have now filled that square and have been issued a TSO certification just like the other manufacturers.

It's not fair to now put our TSO on trial. The traditional and accepted approach has always been "... a TSO is a TSO..." We don't expect to be treated differently by the FAA or your air carrier's management.

Mike
 

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