UAL furloughs

[Fast Eddie]

If ever there was a time for ALPA national and the UAL MEC to demonstate some
leadership and innovation it is now!! It looks like a whole lot
of United assets are about to be pillaged and probably at a huge
discount to market. I realize that the last ESOP went badly but
the pilots may want to explore another shot at this and get it
right this time. This approach may be the only way to control their
destiny. Any form of job action,(slow-down, sickouts etc could push company off the "cliff" into chapter 7. This is not just about
United what we are seeing is an attempt by Corporate America
to devalue the Pilot profession on a wholesale basis. Delta
and American are next. Time is of the essence with a 120 day
window of opportunity winding down.

 

[Publishers]

news

Big news--

Corporate America is not trying to devalue the pilot profession. That would imply that they care about it at all which they do not. I am not sure that they should.

To think that any of this has much to do with the profession or anything like what was said just adds to how far off the profession is from the business they work in. It also reflects an elevated opinion of the role they serve in the business.

 

[GVFlyer]

Glad I decided to bail on civil aviation before I had too much time invested and while I am still young enough to fly in the mil. It looks pretty bad for civilian pilots right now. Im going into the mil with every intention of doing 20.

Best of luck to you and your family. You will find the life of a Naval Aviator to be challenging, interesting and rewarding. Your training will be second to none and the flying you will do cannot be duplicated anywhere else - especially coming aboard the boat.

GV

 

[stb]

You forgot about...

And not to mention by taking that extra unused roll of toilet paper from the overnight hotel along with the soap/shampoo that action results in instant reitirement returns which is alot better than our company funded plans....

the lightbulbs and batteries for the TV remote control.

I have more than once had these items missing in my hotelroom.

 

[750driver]

Re: Re: 6000 left ?

Originally posted by Falcon Capt United has laid off 20,000 workers since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and currently has about 78,000 employees, including nearly 20,000 flight attendants and about 8,500 pilots.

According to the Tribune, it would need only about 6,000 pilots under the reorganization plan, and they would be required to increase their flight time to an average of 50 hours a month, up from the current 36 hours.

Does anyone at United know how far back a 2500 pilot cut would reach? I'm referring to date of hire.

 

[furloboy]

BJJ--Be sure that you can live with yourself if for some reason you don't get into, or complete flight school. There are a million things that can go wrong, and most of them are things that you've got no control over. Make sure that you can be content with contributing to the Navy in some capacity other than aviation.

Best of luck.

 

[KDA or DEATH]

Military Stuff

GVFlyer : "You will find the life of a Naval Aviator to be challenging, interesting and rewarding. ......"Flown: C-37A, UC-35, C-21A, C-20 A/B/D/E/F/G/H/J, C-12, VC-11A, CASA 212, BD700, CL601, F-5, AH-1, H-60, XV-15, Bell 205, Bell 206, MD-530, Citation 560, Lear 31/35, Beech 400A/T-1A, B-707, B100, Beech 1900, Piaggio 180, BN2T, Pilatus Porter..."

DUDE! Can't you HOLD a job!?......(K, don't get yer hackles up Colonel...Just kidding.)

Furloboy: "Be sure that you can live with yourself if for some reason you don't get into, or complete flight school. There are a million things that can go wrong, and most of them are things that you've got no control over. Make sure that you can be content with contributing to the Navy in some capacity other than aviation."

Sounds closer to the truth.

Like when the Navy recruiter told me that: " even though you are Color Blind... No Problem! We'll find you a seat!". My buddy wound up scraping barnacles and " flying plastic dog "doody" (sorry, CENSORED) out of".... you guessed it .

Paranthetically, He had BOTH balls, AND 20-20 vision.


YKW

 

[HoursHore]

"It looks pretty bad for civilian pilots right now. Im going into the mil with every intention of doing 20."

Oh you'll change your tune when the detailer calls you up and asks " What coast do you want your disassociated sea tour on? By the way the carriers are full, but theres an LHA in Japan that needs a fuels officer."

reading this board and seeing such threads as Delta vs comair, Song vs Jet Blue, Rjs Vs mainline, United vs. the world, I have come to one conclusion...Fly FEDEX.