UAL/CAL Merger Buzz Article......(Again)

[General Lee]

Oh wait, CAL pilots are PERFECT......

At least they are not landing on the taxiway....or missing airports.

You mean like this:

On May 11, 1997 Flight 1760, inbound from IAH landed safely at Cabaniss Field Naval Air Station in Corpus Christi by mistake. The plane was approaching CRP through low clouds and directed by approach to use the runway localizer to runway 31 to guide them to the runway. When the Captain saw a runway ahead of him after leaving the clouds he made his approach and landed on runway 31 at Cabaniss Field 5 miles to the southeast.
Contributing to this incident was the tower controller at Corpus Christi turning the runway 13 localizer on for a prior arrival. After that aircraft landed it was not disengaged to turn the localizer to runway 31 back on. Both localizers used the same frequency. There are only 40 frequencies that are currently available for them to operate on. In order to efficiently manage the available radio spectrum many runways utilize the same frequency on opposite ends. To prevent the two transmitting arrays from conflicting with each other only one can be turned on at a time. Pilots are able to distinguish them from each other by listening for the callsign transmitted over the frequency in morse code.
The crew in this case failed to identify the localizer, which would have alerted them they were not on the correct localizer. They were in fact flying an unauthorized back course. On a normal approach a left deflection of the instrument needle means the plane should adjust its course to the left to intercept the localizer. With a back course it is now the other way around, a fly left indication means fly right. This error may have led the plane off course enough to place Cabaniss Field in front of them.



Or how about this:


Thursday, November 2, 2006

Experts: Newark taxiway landing a rare occurrence
By DAVID PORTER
The Associated Press


NEWARK, N.J. -- To an experienced pilot, runway 29 at Newark Liberty
International Airport is hard to miss. It's half a football field wide, and
like all runways, is marked by white lights on each side and down its center
line. Even if a pilot can't see it due to poor weather, instruments would
say if a plane was even a few feet off course.

All of which makes Saturday night's landing of a Continental Airlines flight
on an adjacent taxiway more puzzling. How could the pilot have missed it?

Landings on taxiways are a rare occurrence, according to aviation experts.
That doesn't erase the frightening image of a jet landing on a narrow
taxiway normally used for towing planes and slow-moving cargo.

"It's an incredibly dangerous thing," said Justin Green, a New York attorney
specializing in aviation litigation and a former Marine aviation accident
investigator. He said taxiways aren't designed for the weight and speed of a
landing plane.

"They're not cleared for traffic; someone could have been taxiing while he
was landing," Green said.

The taxiway where the plane landed extends to the northwest along the
airport's northern end and borders several aircraft parking areas as well as
an administration building used by the Port Authority of New York and New
Jersey, the agency that operates the airport.

The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating the landing of
Continental Flight 1883, which was carrying 154 people from Orlando, Fla.
Both pilots were grounded by the airline.

An inspection was completed by Thursday but the board was awaiting
statements from the flight crew before conducting interviews, according to
Jill Andrews, who is leading the investigation.

According to the NTSB's preliminary report released Thursday night, Flight
1883 was initially cleared for an approach to runway 22L, which lands to the
southwest. Runway 22L is equipped with an Instrument Landing System (ILS), a
precision instrument approach that displays in the cockpit whether a plane
is lined up with the middle of the runway. They were then directed to turn
and land on runway 29, which lands to the northwest parallel to the taxiway.




LOL!!!!!!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

DAL market cap (as of MAR 10 2010): $10,450,000,000 (cal + ual combined market cap for same date: $6,270,000,000)
DAL total liabilities: $43,290,000,000
DAL net tangible assets: ($14,371,000,000)
DAL 2008 operating loss: ($1,707,000,000)
DAL average airframe age: 15.4 years

Yeah... WOW... I hope you guys can make it beyond tomorrow at 10:15am with those numbers.

It's also worth mentioning that CAL and UAL, independently each collect roughly an average 5% more in revenue per ticket sold than Delta Airlines. (source: DOT)

WOW, is right.

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

So wait, you are making fun of DL's finances (with a loss due to hedging last year, which UAL also had), when a merger with UAL and CAL will decimate CAL's stellar credit rating? Why are they thinking about merging anyway? Because it will make them worth MORE, and investors want it. Too bad you would have to take UAL's debt and more senior pilots. That will be fun to watch. Look, you may want to sit down (on a toilet) and think this whole thing over, because it will sting. Enjoy it. You will be saying WOW a lot through the process, and not in a good way. Wait until you see UAL's first proposal to merge lists.

And again, thanks for killing the Concorde.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Your both wrong . it,s Don't Excpect Luggage To Arrive

You are wrong too. It is Don't Even Let Them Aboard. That is what you may have been told when you interviewed at Delta.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Yuppyguppy]

DAL market cap (as of MAR 10 2010): $10,450,000,000 (cal + ual combined market cap for same date: $6,270,000,000)
DAL total liabilities: $43,290,000,000
DAL net tangible assets: ($14,371,000,000)
DAL 2008 operating loss: ($1,707,000,000)
DAL average airframe age: 15.4 years

Yeah... WOW... I hope you guys can make it beyond tomorrow at 10:15am with those numbers.

It's also worth mentioning that CAL and UAL, independently each collect roughly an average 5% more in revenue per ticket sold than Delta Airlines. (source: DOT)

WOW, is right.

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

GENERAL GOT STOMPED AGAIN! LMAO! the facts nothin but the facts

 

[General Lee]

GENERAL GOT STOMPED AGAIN! LMAO! the facts nothin but the facts

Wow, DL is worth more--actually twice the combination of UAL and CAL now, but has a large amount of tangible assets in the red. A good merger aims to try to fix that, but one that can never see synergies will never fix a problem like that (USAir). I can't wait to watch the UAL and CAL merger. It will likely be more contentious than the USAir merger. If that happens, you won't be able to clean up your UAL mess.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

DAL market cap (as of MAR 10 2010): $10,450,000,000 (cal + ual combined market cap for same date: $6,270,000,000)
DAL total liabilities: $43,290,000,000
DAL net tangible assets: ($14,371,000,000)
DAL 2008 operating loss: ($1,707,000,000)
DAL average airframe age: 15.4 years

Yeah... WOW... I hope you guys can make it beyond tomorrow at 10:15am with those numbers.

It's also worth mentioning that CAL and UAL, independently each collect roughly an average 5% more in revenue per ticket sold than Delta Airlines. (source: DOT)

WOW, is right.

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

This from an APC thread.....

Delta Compared to the rest of the world:

Ben,

That makes you guys look like "small potatoes." And, even after DL's $1.2 billion write down for hedging last year, DL actually gained $400 million in cash towards cash on hand. To top it off, you killed the Concorde. Aren't you ashamed?


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[mamba20]

Talk about a thread drift.

 

[eaglesview]

You are wrong too. It is Don't Even Let Them Aboard. That is what you may have been told when you interviewed at Delta.


Bye Bye--General Lee

No General, I was not even offered a Delta interview I am no where good enough for that. I am sure there is no way in hell I would have passed the psych exam, which is good news as that is a good indicater I am actually normal. Besides that the double breasted adds ten pounds.

 

[BID]

ha ha no shi#@ need to get out of the high school forums.

 

[jumppilot]

BTo top it off, you killed the Concorde. Aren't you ashamed?


Bye Bye---General Lee

Didn't the French not do a required FOD check prior to the the Concorde taking off?