UAL Bases by seniority

[Phrogs4ever]

There will be no forcing juniors out of base. You can only bid what is vacant.

 

[jonjuan]

One of the best "deals" UNICAL offers the CAL guys is nice domciles.... Depending on CAL seniority a pilot could say "Hey honey instead of living in HOU/EWR... how does DEN, IAD, LA, SFO or SEA sound?



Seniority has its rights, perks.... and privileges!!

One thing HOU has is it's great cost of living which is probably 1/2 of each of the ual bases. This significantly increases cal's relative pay. can't imagine anyone entranched in Htown would want to move to sfo,iad, den, la, or sea. Of course, seniority prevails.

 

[jonjuan]

There will be no forcing juniors out of base. You can only bid what is vacant.

Similar to what southwest does. Gonna be hard to force many out of iah.

 

[Jetjockey]

Force??? I'm sure many will leave as soon as DEN, ORD, SFO, IAD, and LAX are available to bid vacancies.

 

[rumrunner300]

One thing HOU has is it's great cost of living which is probably 1/2 of each of the ual bases. .

That is because it is Houston, which is 1/3 of the reason I never applied to CAL when they started hiring (BTW, this decision will come back to bite me in the a$$.....HARD). The other two? EWR and CLE.

rr

 

[whatitdoing?]

I strongly recommend IAH, it's a wonderful base with mild temps and no mosquitoes. We have a very low crime rate and illegals are kicked out immediately. We have rolling hills and beautiful views of oil fields. If anyone needs any help getting set up here, come on down. You won't 'regret' it....promise.

 

[Hvy]

How are the SFO 767/757 trips structured? Mainly domestic? Flights to Hawaii? LAX turns?

ALL domestic. Lots of Hawaii. Lots of transcons. Other crappy stuff mixed in.

LA turns every so often. Fair amount of equipment subs for broke dick airbuses.

 

[Flyforyou]

I strongly recommend IAH, it's a wonderful base with mild temps and no mosquitoes. We have a very low crime rate and illegals are kicked out immediately. We have rolling hills and beautiful views of oil fields. You won't 'regret' it....promise.

That's some funny sh!t right there...

 

[manflex srs rwy]

Wow...I'm surprised that SFO is/was junior. I guess it's the cost of living. ORD I can see and even IAD (cost of living) but I would not have guessed SFO being junior.

What kind of international flying/equipment do you guys have out of IAD?

Thanks to both posters for answering this question. Reason I'm so curious is that while we currently live in Houston, we're seriously contemplating moving back east and hence the reason for wanting to know the type of equipment that UAL has been flying out of that base.

We're actually considering moving to Raleigh and commuting to IAD but I would only want to commute to larger equipment flying international stuff.

Thanks again!

Knock yourself out . . . as soon as you have the seniority to hold that. 14 years longevity sounds about right.

 

[SoCentralRain]

Looking to find out how senior the United bases rank. I'm guessing IAD is one of the more junior bases but that is purely a guess.​

SEA has been the most senior UAL base for years. Then DEN, LAX, SFO, ORD, IAD.

SCR

 

[Ex737Driver]

Force??? I'm sure many will leave as soon as DEN, ORD, SFO, IAD, and LAX are available to bid vacancies.

Sure they will. Beacuse Oakland,CA, Gary, IN, and Washington, DC aren't anywhere close to UAL domiciles. 3 in the top 16 for most dangerous cities for crime.

 

[NavinRJohnson]

Didn't even know UAL had a base in SEA... How big (or small) is it?

 

[sleeves]

Time will tell. Nobody knows what is going to be negotiated. Remember that one persons garbage is another's treasure. I will welcome the chance to get back to the northeast and bid EWR.

And I cannot wait to get to ORD.

 

[venr122]

Reality is most of us are pretty well stuck where we live in these times. We have kids in schools, spouses with [better] jobs, houses we can't dream of selling. While we all want to live where we want to live, I suspect there won't be a huge swing from current domicile staffing.

that said, I am rooting for a domestic 757 base out of LGA, make my drive shorter

 

[Sonny Crockett]

What is the chance (% wise) of a UAL bubba taking the CAL deal and getting IAH based? I live here in IAH now, be nice not to commute.

P.S. I have 11 years with UAL and on the top of the furloughed/hostage list

 

[DontFeedTheBear]

What is the chance (% wise) of a UAL bubba taking the CAL deal and getting IAH based? I live here in IAH now, be nice not to commute.

P.S. I have 11 years with UAL and on the top of the furloughed/hostage list

I feel for you being furloughed at 11 years and will welcome you to CAL as per the TP & A. Not trying to doubt you, but how are you a hostage? UAL has on average 1.67 more pilots per aircraft than CAL. The CAL furloughs were completely unnecessary, and were a management ploy. The furloghes were offered their jobs back on more than one occasion; if CAL pilots would sign off on a letter of agreement that would basically allow more outsourcing and code/revenue sharing. The company has operated short staffed for two years, now they don't need the LOA's signed because they are merging. So here they come back to the line. UAL furloughs are a product of outsourcing, which does not denote being a hostage. Please correct me if I am misinformed.

Yogi

 

[bluefin]

I feel for you being furloughed at 11 years and will welcome you to CAL as per the TP & A. Not trying to doubt you, but how are you a hostage? UAL has on average 1.67 more pilots per aircraft than CAL. The CAL furloughs were completely unnecessary, and were a management ploy. The furloghes were offered their jobs back on more than one occasion; if CAL pilots would sign off on a letter of agreement that would basically allow more outsourcing and code/revenue sharing. The company has operated short staffed for two years, now they don't need the LOA's signed because they are merging. So here they come back to the line. UAL furloughs are a product of outsourcing, which does not denote being a hostage. Please correct me if I am misinformed.

Yogi

In the words of king ****************************** bag tilton, "UAL was right sized for this merger" so he/I and 1435 other pilots were taken as "Hostages" so he could get his check.

 

[DontFeedTheBear]

In the words of king ****************************** bag tilton, "UAL was right sized for this merger" so he/I and 1435 other pilots were taken as "Hostages" so he could get his check.

No doubt he is a s-c-u-mbucket! But the numbers I had seen were a very minor drop in ASM's for 'right sizing'. I just saw an airline with a decimation of their 737 fleet, and a large increase in 70 seat RJ's and their utilization! I am still not seeing a hostage situation such as the CAL furloughs. Were the 1437 UAL furloughs offered their job back in order to sign something or give something in return? (Sorry if that comes across wrong, it's hard to put sincerity into a written post.)

Yogi

 

[SoCentralRain]

Didn't even know UAL had a base in SEA... How big (or small) is it?

Tiny. From what I recall, the most junior FO in SEA could hold reserve Captain in IAD.

 

[Sonny Crockett]

I feel for you being furloughed at 11 years and will welcome you to CAL as per the TP & A. Not trying to doubt you, but how are you a hostage? UAL has on average 1.67 more pilots per aircraft than CAL. The CAL furloughs were completely unnecessary, and were a management ploy. The furloghes were offered their jobs back on more than one occasion; if CAL pilots would sign off on a letter of agreement that would basically allow more outsourcing and code/revenue sharing. The company has operated short staffed for two years, now they don't need the LOA's signed because they are merging. So here they come back to the line. UAL furloughs are a product of outsourcing, which does not denote being a hostage. Please correct me if I am misinformed.

Yogi

Yogi,

First it is FURLOUGHS....not furloghes

Many of us in the top % of layoffs over here at UAL were directly linked to the parking of our 737-300 and 500's to help make the Merger happen.