UAL and Mesa Reach Agreement

[Capt RJ]

Flying Q400 (10)out of DEN, to replace Air Whiskey DO-328 props

 

[MetroSheriff]

Source???

 

[the turtle]

not exactly....

Mesa Air Group Announces Codeshare Agreement With United Airlines
Thursday February 27, 2:34 pm ET


PHOENIX, Feb. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Mesa Air Group, Inc.
(Nasdaq: MESA - News) announced today that it has signed a memorandum
of understanding with United Airlines (NYSE: UAL - News) to operate
as United Express under a revenue guarantee codeshare agreement.
Under the agreement, Mesa will provide ten 37-passenger de Havilland
Dash 8-200 aircraft to be utilized in support of United's operations
in Denver. The aircraft are expected to enter service beginning July
2003 for an initial term of five years.
(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19990210/LAW065 )
"Mesa and United previously had a long history as partners. After
Mesa's acquisitions of Aspen Airlines in 1990 and WestAir in 1992,
Mesa had operated as United Express in Denver and throughout the West
Coast," said Jonathan Ornstein, Mesa's Chairman and CEO. "We are
delighted to have the opportunity to return to the United Express
family. Mesa stands ready to do whatever we can to assist United in
its successful restructuring and it is our hope that we can play a
meaningful role going forward."

The agreement is subject to reaching terms on a definitive contract,
which is expected in the next few weeks.

Mesa currently operates 122 aircraft with 889 daily system departures
to 147 cities, 37 states, Canada, Mexico and the Bahamas. It operates
in the West and Midwest as America West Express, the Midwest and East
as US Airways Express, in Denver as Frontier JetExpress, in Kansas
City as Midwest Express and in New Mexico as Mesa Airlines.

 

[WileE]

Not enough 8-200's

To go around. Sounds like JO is going to have to chew his own leg off and pony up for more Dash's. So much for all his negative talk about turboprops being doomed in the airline industry.

 

[the turtle]

I would imagine he could get quite a few of the parked ALG and PDT ones from his good budy Dave.

 

[Russ]

Plenty more parked at SGF.

 

[Pilot877]

I dont get it........seems like UAL was in such a hurry to have an all jet fleet. They want all of the J41's replaced with RJ's at ACA, and I would imagine they pushed Air Wisconsin to get rid of the Do328's (not sure about that, just a guess). So, why Dash-8's with Mesa? Anyone care to share some good speculation?

Meanwhile, while they make definite plans with Mesa they leave the rest of the UAX carriers hanging as to what they will do with them.

Oh well, back to flipping my switches and eating banana sandwiches.

 

[Two-9-9-TwoSet]

who will be the next WestAir????

 

[ACABlueridge]

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I dont get it........seems like UAL was in such a hurry to have an all jet fleet. They want all of the J41's replaced with RJ's at ACA, and I would imagine they pushed Air Wisconsin to get rid of the Do328's (not sure about that, just a guess). So, why Dash-8's with Mesa? Anyone care to share some good speculation

Yeah, they were in a hurry when times were good. Now that their world is turned upside down (Chapter 11) they are doing any AND everything possible to cut costs. That means joining forces with Mesa who they fired just a few years back.

I guess it IS all about money like everyone says!

 

[Beantown]

"I guess it IS all about money like everyone says!"


No sh$t sherlock! It's called a BUSINESS! IT'S ALL ABOUT MAKING MONEY!

 

[agv]

They need the turboprops for the Mountain Airports, the RJ cannot do some of those routes (performance)!!

 

[CRJ puppy]

Well isn't that just a kick in the pants.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Skywest, ACA and Air Willy negotiations now.

Too bad United seems to prefer the "mushroom treatment" to open discussions with their current employees and flying partners.



Oh well. Now where did I put that Greyhound application?

 

[cheezpilot]

Air Wisconsin was having problems with Dornier and the whole bankrupt thing. I dont know if it was parts, support, or what but AWAC decided to get out when they could. The other thing is that some airports the 328 flew to are high altitude and require special climb and departure procedures that a lot of aircraft cannot do. One of the few that could do it and actually carry more than 6 people out in the summer is the Dash-8(just a lot slower). None of the current express carriers have the dash or any aircraft that could do it so UAL had to find someone else. The 1900 could do it but UAL I think wants to distance themselves from 19 seaters with no Lav or FA. Not to mention Mesa is probably doing it for peanuts, which will make them look good and all the other UAex carriers trying to make this a viable career look bad. I heard Mesa has a bad completion percentage with Frontier. Dont know if it is true but I hope history does not repeat itself. Does UAL remember the last time Mesa flew for them out of Denver?

 

[Skank]

Hey Beantown (AKA Sherlock), yeah it's all about the money. A long time ago there were things called ethics. Ethical companies, run by ethical people. But that was a long time ago... By the way, using the "no $hit $herlock" technique of debate started at about the same time ethics disappeared.

 

[CatYaaak]

[B
I guess it IS all about money like everyone says! [/B]

At this point, it's not like they have a lot of choice in the matter.