waveflyer
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Airlines with the exception of TWA were making record profits in the mid to late 90's. Every major was hiring in droves. Simply look at a UA or DL seniority list and see how many pilots were hired between 1997 and 2000.
The "trend" you refer to has been cycling off and on further back than 1979. I have friends that were hired at TWA in 1968 and were furloughed 3 times. Some sat sideways for 15 years before even thinking about being able to upgrade to F/O. Back then, there was no such thing as Southwest, JetBlue, or regionals to apply to. But then again, majors today aren't hiring pilots with 250 hours and a commercial ticket.
Pipe already said it- a delta 747 captain in the early 70's made $105/hour- google an inflation adjustor and let me know what that equates to. Your point is taken- it's cyclical- more like spiraling down- the ups don't equal the downs
BTW-You talk like having regionals to apply to is a good thing? Why are majors not hiring guys w/ lower time?- b/c there is a market of RJ guys that damn near forces young pilots to work for those sh**ty companies and fly those planes at 1/3 wages to get competitive for a major. And young guys careers get split up for a short term advantage to old guys that ended up blowing up in their face.... IE: you relaxed your scope, marginalized the entire skill set- MGMT: "see a 23 yo can and will do this and be safe- your experience doesn't matter" Meanwhile the only reason most of those 20something pilots fly for those companies is b/c they have to in order to get on w/ a major- and the more you release your scope- the longer they will have to do it to be competitive- and now you can't fly your international plane for much more than a good real estate agent makes.
THE POINT:
Pattern bargaining does not work since deregulation. Either become a guild/PAC and let us all individually work out our own contracts- or get working on a national list. I'll say it til i'm blue in the face-- what we are seeing will not stop- until we get our seniority system fixed. It kills our leverage.
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