UAIR pilots to vote

[TWA Dude]

TC, you're the original compassionate conservative. Peace up, bro.

 

[Double Shot]

EMB products are a P.O.S.

 

[lowecur]

You implied that the almost-retired guys were trying to sellout the rest. They are.

How would you know? You don't work there. Let's just say I have a sixth sense. We'll see who's right at the end of the month when you should see a landslide vote to accept the TA.

Thank you for answering. I welcome your opinions here but advise that you might benefit from putting yourself in other people's shoes. You tend to be callous to the plights of real people. Actually, I'm very sensitive to the plight of the majority, but I don't have alot of patience for employees who continually try to piss into a hurricane. At some point you just have to accept the inevitable, circle the wagons, start a new base and rebuild. As a recent article stated, deregulation is finally beginning to work. The legacy's always found a way to rebuff the LCC startups and this thing called capitalism.

It's easy to look at this industry from the outside and point fingers but when you're living it the perspective can be different. It's very easy to blame Labor for everything. I don't blame labor for anything. Everything you have seen in this business the last 20 years is the process of nobody wanting to give an inch or work together. Both mgt and labor are at fault for carrying their causes to extremes. Perhaps there will be lessons learned from what's going on, but I have my doubts, as the usual ego's will surface in future negotiations.

Well guess what, you have to pay employees to work and happy employees work harder than unhappy ones. And it's usually not a matter of pay but of respect that makes employees happy. Sorry, but I believe it's both.

The USAir employees have been cornered and are now being told to shoulder the blame for that which isn't their fault. How would you feel, especially with the knowledge that your repeated concessions may have no effect anyway? This business is changing in leaps and bounds by the minute. There is no way UAIR mgt could have predicted $50 oil or LUV's incursion in PHL. You try and make mgt decisions based on the latest available data that will make the business viable and keep people employed.

If a ship is sinking does it not make sense to jump before the final dive? No, not unless you have another job.


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[lowecur]

EMB products are Marvelous.

I agree.

 

[Publishers]

Frankly

Frankly I wish Lowecur would quit annoying people with his banal attitude and semi-business related language. After all, that is my job.

I have spent 40 years in business learning how to aggevate managment and labor all at the same time dazzeling both with the by products of bull with my incredible memory of the non-significant. Most would rather I forgot long ago the facts that I have managed to retain so that they are dredged up at the absolute worst time in pursuit of some remote point. Lowecur has managed at an apparently younger age to come up with the same agruments.

One of the great things about this business is we have pilots. Now in other businesses without the benefit of pilots, middle management is forced to spend their days hanging around and making the same type comments we see on these boards towards Upper Management. Here we have pilots and management taking sides. Of course, if things get really bad, we can pick on flight attendants. Meanwhile, mechanics are sitting in a bar somewhere devoid of personal computers saying screw off to all of us.

USAirways is dead. It is as dead as one gets in the business world. The trouble is that instead of recognizing that and moving along, everyone will hang around and bitch about things and the way it used to be until someone has the graciousnous to put a bullet into the carcus.

 

[Double Shot]

The EMB is a P.O.S.

If you ever flew one you would know.

Enough said.

 

[BoilerUP]

lowecur,

Ask a former Eastern pilot what he thinks about Airways ALPA "circling the wagons" and "starting a new base"; I think Boeingman has given us all the Continental perspective.

Lorenzo must be laughing his ass off right about now...