Ua rfp

[CX880]

No...

Who cares. When Mesa liquidates or downsizes enough so that PHX lifers will be ORD reserves, the couple of thousand pilots on furlough at the expense of JO will get back to work. It will all even out.


Ps.. JO will still need his pilot servants to help him squeeze out his Koolaid. You're right you will be covered if there is job loss, serving management is your specialty.

 

[Abernathy]

ASA as UEX in IAD in a BIG way

As much as I'd like to see this happen so I can move the f#$% out of Atlanta and actually have some growth here, what makes you think this?

 

[Texx]

ASA as UEX in IAD in a BIG way

DING DING DING We have a winner!

 

[Texx]

As much as I'd like to see this happen so I can move the f#$% out of Atlanta and actually have some growth here, what makes you think this?

HAHAHAH! Growth HAHAHAHA! That's a good one.

 

[Tarzan]

contract termination clauses triggered on BK filings are completely unenforceable. Think about it, every single contract you sign would contain them to get around bankruptcy restructuring. Bankruptcy courts are there to protect the assets and business of the bankrupy entity, not to recover assets for creditors.

Actually, you have it backwards. The creditors come first.

 

[xjlifer]

Paul Foley....hmm...rings a bell. What does he do?

 

[BrickTop]

For those of you “I hope Mesa liquidates” chest thumpers: Consider the fact that the people who are willing to spend their careers at Mesa will be jobless it that happens. Do you really want 1000 Pilots with 121 experience in the free market right now that are willing to work for a substandard carrier when the airlines start to hire again? Trust me you don’t want Mesa to liquidate right now!

Why doesn't your group burry that crapbox airline and we and every other regional will welcome all Mesa pilots to continue their careers. Why save an operation that has soiled this industry with the stink of inadequacy.

 

[A-V-8]

Why doesn't your group burry that crapbox airline and we and every other regional will welcome all Mesa pilots to continue their careers. Why save an operation that has soiled this industry with the stink of inadequacy.

I voted no. 400 to 418.

 

[1080P]

It is not my parade. I feel fortunate to be riding this storm out as a Cpt. but when the storm breaks I have my 1000 and I will have 5000 TT in a month or 2. I will break out of here ASAP. There is just no where to go now. Cell phone is full of contacts at every company. If I hit the streat I could go anywhere when the storm breaks just to stay current. I don't realy care what happens any more than they care about me.

I am just sharing the info that I have.

Your so cool , oh to have 1000 pic and 5000 total and contacts at other carriers your probably like one of ten thousand guys that have all that...........

 

[relief tube]

It is not my parade. I feel fortunate to be riding this storm out as a Cpt. but when the storm breaks I have my 1000 and I will have 5000 TT in a month or 2. I will break out of here ASAP. There is just no where to go now. Cell phone is full of contacts at every company. If I hit the streat I could go anywhere when the storm breaks just to stay current. I don't realy care what happens any more than they care about me.

I am just sharing the info that I have.

what's a "streat"? realy?

We've had 9-11, a recession, and age 65 BS. 1000 PIC isn't worth ******************** anymore.

 

[20sx]

The 1000 will be worth something in the future. It's just gonna be a few more years until the movement starts again. Even with all the high time regional pilots, there will be a huge flush to the majors.
Aviation is like deja vu....this same talk went on after 9/11. After a few years, FO's were being hired at Delta...

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Fact is that only 700 or so were hired the last round at DAL. That is less than 1/3 of what DAL normally hires in a hiring cycle.

I agree that come 2012 DAL will start hiring and will not stop for 20 years. There are a few years in the end of next decade where we will have at least 800 guys retire a year. The ones starting flight school now will be at the regionals three years and a CA at a major with in four. That means that by the time most of them are 30 they will be where I will be after 25 years in the industry. Timing is everything.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

I hear Air Wisky might be taking that flying. Talk about the chickens coming home to roost. Wasn't Air Wisky founded just to do UA flying many years ago?

 

[777forever]

As much as I'd like to see this happen so I can move the f#$% out of Atlanta and actually have some growth here, what makes you think this?

Hopefully it goes senior. Don't wanna get displaced to IAD...

 

[DiverDriver]

I hear Air Wisky might be taking that flying. Talk about the chickens coming home to roost. Wasn't Air Wisky founded just to do UA flying many years ago?

It was founded by businessman who wanted to fly from the Fox Valley area to Chicago. DeHavilland Dove, Twin Otters, Beach 99s, Metroliners and a few others since then built up a significant pressence at ORD. The term "code share" was coined by the relationship between United and Air Wisconsin. Then United wanted slots at ORD and so they bought Air Wisconsin. Took the slots, dismantled the company for the most part and then sold it to CJT (Crowley, Jordan and Thompson) in 1993. But for all that time AW did service just United. Then came the Air Tran experiment.

Who knows if AWAC (Air Wisconsin Airline Corp) will win the RFP. It had been rumored that AWAC would never fly for United again unless they had the ground handling contract at ORD for Express flying. Then they bid on and it is rumored that AWAC did win the ground handling at ORD. So maybe AWAC is already in and just waiting for the announcement to return to the UAX fold. Who knows.

What I still wonder is if the "Air Wisconsin Exception" is still in the United scope. I believe it was section 1 - K - 22. It listed by tail number the BAE-146s they had operating in UAX. It also states AWAC can replace them one for one. I wonder if the CRJ 1000 will fit into that exception.