UA "national seniority list"

[densoo]

-- they got ALPA-N to change seniority integration policy last year

-- their company placed notional orders for lots of planes

-- now they're asking for a national seniority list by date of hire

They're about four moves ahead of the pilot group of the airline they're going to merge with.

 

[Mike man]

which DOH...I have two. One from my previous carrier and one from my current carrier.

 

[michael707767]

-- they got ALPA-N to change seniority integration policy last year

What changed?

 

[Tail Gunner Joe]

which DOH...I have two. One from my previous carrier and one from my current carrier.

This.


Q: Will Part 121 Turboprop DOH be equal to a 121 Jet DOH? Will Part 135 Scheduled ops count too?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

-- they got ALPA-N to change seniority integration policy last year

-- their company placed notional orders for lots of planes

-- now they're asking for a national seniority list by date of hire

They're about four moves ahead of the pilot group of the airline they're going to merge with.

Kind of ironic considering they're the ones that had DOH removed from alpa policy.
Looks like UAL-CAL is just around the corner.

 

[mach none]

Funny how they used to look down their nose at me flying the Eskimo. Now they want my job.

 

[densoo]

What changed?

OLD
1.The merger representatives shall carefully weigh all the equities inherent in their merger situation. In joint session, the merger representatives should attempt to match equities to various methods of integration until a fair and equitable agreement is reached, keeping in mind the following goals, in no particular order:
a.Preserve jobs.
b.Avoid windfalls to either group at the expense of the other.
c.Maintain or improve pre-merger pay and standard of living.
d.Maintain or improve pre-merger pilot status.
e.Minimize detrimental changes to career expectations.
　
NEW
e. The merger representatives shall carefully weigh all the equities inherent in their merger situation. In joint session, the merger representatives should attempt to match equities to various methods of integration until a fair and equitable integrated seniority list is reached. Factors to be considered in constructing a fair and equitable integrated seniority list, in no particular order and with no particular weight, shall include but not be limited to the following:
- Career expectations.
- Longevity.
- Status and category.

Pretty much leaves it wide open to pick one, oh, say, the new factor "longevity" and give it all the weight.

Then UAL just redefines "longevity" and you've got all their furloughs going above a good third of the group they're merging with.

The "no windfall" clause is also gone.

 

[IAHERJ]

United employees really seem to believe we are merging. Traveled on them last weekend and it came up several times.

 

[Metro752]

May I have my original, non-union, date of hire at a 121/135 operator?

 

[lookin4better]

-- they got ALPA-N to change seniority integration policy last year

-- their company placed notional orders for lots of planes

-- now they're asking for a national seniority list by date of hire

They're about four moves ahead of the pilot group of the airline they're going to merge with.

I do not think they are working towards a national list; however I do think you are correct in them preparing themselves for a merger.