UA/CO Strike Ballot Opened Today

[Furloughed80]

If you are a UA/CO pilot, please do your part and vote...

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[Yuppyguppy]

Strike? YOU BET!

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

If you are a UA/CO pilot, please do your part and vote...

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OK, For those of us on the outside (I was previous ALPA so understand how the system works but some will not) how did it get to this point? Do you not have to actually negoitated? Been in mediation? Gotten released from mediation? Gotten to a "Cooling off point"? Etc.? has these steps already happened or is this ALPA trying to take a stand to show management "WE MEAN BUSINESS"? Not flaming but confused!!!
Thx,
From us non-ALPA types (I burned all that stuff when I left)
KBB

 

[Sherpa]

Railway Labor Act circa 1926.

 

[NavinRJohnson]

OK, For those of us on the outside (I was previous ALPA so understand how the system works but some will not) how did it get to this point? Do you not have to actually negoitated? Been in mediation? Gotten released from mediation? Gotten to a "Cooling off point"? Etc.? has these steps already happened or is this ALPA trying to take a stand to show management "WE MEAN BUSINESS"? Not flaming but confused!!!
Thx,
From us non-ALPA types (I burned all that stuff when I left)
KBB

Umm, we've been in negotiations and mediation for quite a long time. The Chairman of the Mediation Board is personally going to oversee this weeks final get together w/ management. Nothing else is even scheduled after this week. This a vote to authorize a strike. Doesn't mean it will happen. Sends a message to management that if they don't come to terms soon, the release might be around the corner.

It's been a long road, and it's been discussed a lot on this forum and in the media. I'm surprised you're confused...

 

[NavinRJohnson]

PS Voted for the strike this morning. Hope it's 99.9 percent for it.

 

[RT8VA]

Just cast my vote in favor.

 

[talespin]

if you are a ua/co pilot, please do your part and vote...

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yes!!!!

 

[jetflier]

I would vote yes!

 

[mamba20]

just voted YES!

 

[Golden Falcon]

Ahhhh how times pass....members in good standing with "unfortunate dates of hire" voting to strike.....

 

[CapnVegetto]

Strike vote will pass with a large margin.

It means NOTHING.

The U.S. gubbermint will never allow the one of the biggest carriers in the world to strike, and management knows this. The vote is largely ceremonial at best.

That being said, I wish like hell you could. The RLA is an antiquated piece of crap, and we should NOT be held to it. Lots of European carriers can strike MUCH easier, and there is no reason that US carriers shouldn't be able to do the same. It's absurd to be bound by a fcking contract that was written back near the turn of the damn 19th century for an intercontinental railroad system that if shut down, would bring the nation to a grinding halt.

Damn I hate the gubbermint more every day.

 

[HelloNewman]

I voted NO. Don't worry it will still pass but voting yes because I am told to is silly. What is the point of having the right to vote if I have to do what I am told? I voted no because I do not believe in striking over 50 seat only scope.

 

[mamba20]

I voted NO. Don't worry it will still pass but voting yes because I am told to is silly. What is the point of having the right to vote if I have to do what I am told? I voted no because I do not believe in striking over 50 seat only scope.

I don't supposed you could be talked into suicide could you?

 

[Yuppyguppy]

I voted NO. Don't worry it will still pass but voting yes because I am told to is silly. What is the point of having the right to vote if I have to do what I am told? I voted no because I do not believe in striking over 50 seat only scope.

Good flame bait!

 

[bpapaDC8]

Just ignore this troll. This guy is obviously just flamebaiting. Who in the world thinks this contract is ONLY about scope?

 

[HelloNewman]

It is not only about scope but it is a fairly large part of it. A lot of people talk about capping scope at 50 seats or less which simply is not realistic. When the strike vote passes it doesn't mean we are any closer to being released so thankfully we won't see guys walking in circles any time soon.

Personally I wish we had just stayed Continental and not merged with United. This merger has created too many people that simply want to watch the company burn because they are angry.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I warned you guys, I am glad he/it is your problem now.....

 

[Skychief]

It is not only about scope but it is a fairly large part of it. A lot of people talk about capping scope at 50 seats or less which simply is not realistic.

For any L-CAL pilot, giving the company anything over 50 seats is a concession. I am done working under this concessionary contract. Haven't we given the company enough? Why would we "give" the company scope? Scope is the only thing in our current contract that is worthwhile. I don't see why capping scope at 50 seats is not realistic. CAL has the 50 seat restriction and was/is very competitive with carriers that allow 70/90 seat aircraft. Why is this not realistic?

YES to strike!

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

Umm, we've been in negotiations and mediation for quite a long time. The Chairman of the Mediation Board is personally going to oversee this weeks final get together w/ management. Nothing else is even scheduled after this week. This a vote to authorize a strike. Doesn't mean it will happen. Sends a message to management that if they don't come to terms soon, the release might be around the corner.

It's been a long road, and it's been discussed a lot on this forum and in the media. I'm surprised you're confused...

My confusion is you guys voting for a strike, I mentioned sending a message to management, but for those that don't know, you still have to "be released"... That was my confusion, thinking I missed that part of the process... I don't read everything on this forum about every airline, I barely have time to read about my own.

BTW, being able to vote for a strike and actually going on a strike (or being allowed to go on strike) are two different things.

Good Luck,
KBB

 

[PCL_128]

KBB, a strike vote is usually done well ahead of an actual release to strike. It needs to be done per the union bylaws before a strike can happen, so checking that box off early is smart so you aren't rushing to get it done during a cooling off period. It also does send a good loud message to management, and it lets the NMB know that the pilot group is behind the union, which is something that they need to know before allowing a strike. The NMB's worst nightmare is allowing a strike and then coming to find out that the company gets 25% of the pilots to cross the line and keeps operating in a state of limbo for months on end, bringing tons of bad press and pressure on the NMB. By seeing that everyone is unified, it lets the NMB know that a release will probably result in a deal rather than a strike, and that's what they want.