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What type of work have you found?

  • Flying job (any full time)

    Votes: 260 48.3%
  • Military (active, guard, or reserve)

    Votes: 32 5.9%
  • non-flying job

    Votes: 102 19.0%
  • still out of work

    Votes: 144 26.8%

  • Total voters
    538
MachPi,

Yeah, good luck in your new endeavors. You have taken the bull by the horns and taken POSITIVE action even though it's not in aviation. Flying is certainly not what it used to be and probably never will. The one thing I would advise any "young buck" coming up through the ranks, is to have something "worthwhile" to fall back on, if you insist in carrying on with aviation. This is a brutal industry as many have found out. Those lucky to still have a job are way beyong burnt out and always looking over their shoulders to see what's going to hit them next. In short, it is no longer fun and when that happens, it's time for a change.

I'm lucky that it evetually panned out for me - it took 15 months of unemployment and then I hit, but overseas. I joke that I've been outsourced, which I have. Once the dust settles, I plan on turning an interest/hobby into a sideline business because it's always easy to get another job whne you have one and you also have the resources with which to do that.

Once again, good luck, you have chosen a noble profession and there appears to be a great demand also (a key factor), I'm sure you will do just fine. Don't think of those years as "wasted" years. They are not. It's called the university of life and experiences. Nowadays, diversity and flexibility is king. :cool:
 
MachPi

I think you are making an excellent decision. CRNAs are in very high demand, so much so that in the area where I live they can earn up to 200K OR MORE per year. All that for three or four days (mornings) of work per week. And when you do get recalled by AA, you can most likely continue your CRNA work on your days off.

This industry needs folks like yourself who are smart enough to deversify their skills so that we can all negotiate from a position of strength. Too many pilots are just afraid (or they lack imagination) of putting themselves out there and doing something different. Good luck to you.
 
sucking off the gov teat and wanting gov intervention and control within free enterprize is a very dangerous thing guys, yall know that. And to be honest, this "I've done that before" and so I'd rather live off all the other people that actually work and pay taxes is total BS. Get off your bum and get a job. Right now, the very jobs that you are snobing are paying your unemployment. Disgusting.

Believe me, I have some idea how much you guys have invested in flight training, but still that attitude is weak. The guy that is working in AK, and the guy that drives tactors, I salute you.

The guy that is riding on his wifes shoulders is at least not a burden on the rest of us paying taxes, just his wife. That's his bis and we dont have to live with her, so I dont care.

On the flip side, I know most of you guys have already paid a lot of taxes so maybe you are well deserving of some interim help. But, government help is a very dangerous thing - as they always want something in return, such as your personal freedoms and a higher tax rate for the rest of us that are actually contributing.

I have a lot of respect for airline pilots, as both my father and grandfather both had successful flying careers at Delta and Eastern, respectively.

Hopefully as the US economy picks up, you guys will be back in the air, very soon. I wish you the best.
 
CRNAs wut do they do exactly?
 
crna:

What are Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists (CRNAs)?
Nurse anesthesia is an advanced clinical nursing specialty. As anesthesia specialists, CRNAs administer approximately 65% of the 26 million anesthetics given to patients in the United States each year.

How Does a Nurse become a CRNA?
A nurse attends an accredited nurse anesthesia education program to receive an extensive education in anesthesia. Upon graduation, the nurse must pass a national certification exam to become a CRNA.

What does a Nurse Anesthesia Education Program Include?
A program will include 24 to 36 months of graduate course work including both classroom and clinical experience with:

  • The classroom curriculum emphasizing anatomy, physiology, pathophysiology, biochemistry, chemistry, physics and pharmacology as related to anesthesia.
  • The major clinical component providing experience with a variety of anesthesia techniques and procedures for all types of surgery and obstetrics.
All nurse anesthesia education programs offer a master’s degree. Depending on the particular program, the degrees are in nursing, allied health, or biological and clinical sciences.

What are the Requirements for Admission to a Program?
The requirements for admission are:

  • A bachelor’s of science in nursing or another appropriate baccalaureate degree. (Each program determines "appropriate" degrees and "approved" programs.)
  • A license as a registered nurse.
  • A minimum of one year of acute care nursing experience. (Each program determines what constitutes "acute care" nursing.)
Is Financial Aid Available for an Individual to Attend a Program?
Financial aid is available and varies by program. It is suggested that you contact several programs and ask them about the availability of tuition assistance, as well as the specific admission criteria. There is no financial aid available through AANA for those entering a nurse anesthesia education program.

What is the Role of An Individual CRNA?
A CRNA takes care of a patient’s anesthesia needs before, during and after surgery or the delivery of a baby by:

  • Performing a physical assessment
  • Participating in preoperative teaching
  • Preparing for anesthetic management
  • Administering anesthesia to keep the patient pain free
  • Maintaining anesthesia intraoperatively
  • Overseeing recovery from anesthesia
  • Following the patient’s postoperative course from recovery room to patient care unit.
CRNAs provide services in conjunction with other healthcare professionals such as surgeons, dentists, podiatrists, and anesthesiologists.

Where do CRNAs Practice?
CRNAs practice in a variety of settings in the private and public sectors and in the U.S. military, including traditional hospital operating rooms, ambulatory surgery centers, pain clinics, and physicians’ offices. They practice on a solo basis, in groups and collaboratively. Some CRNAs have independent contracting arrangements with physicians or hospitals.

What Employment Opportunities Exist for CRNAs?
CRNAs are in demand and therefore have many opportunities for general or specialty practice throughout the United States.

Reflecting the level of responsibility, CRNAs are one of the best paid nursing specialties. The reported average annual salary in 2001 was approximately $113,000.

Past, Present, Future of CRNAs
Nurse anesthesia is no longer the best kept secret in healthcare. Established in the late 1800s as the first clinical nursing specialty, nurse anesthesia developed in response to the growing need surgeons had for anesthetists. Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists (CRNAs) and the American Association of Nurse Anesthetists (AANA) have played significant roles in developing the practice of anesthesia. Today, more than 30,000 CRNAs provide cost-effective, high-quality patient care that is essential to America’s healthcare system.

What Is the Role of the Individual CRNA?
Nurse anesthetists, pioneers in anesthesia, have been administering anesthesia for more than 100 years.

As anesthesia specialists, CRNAs take care of patients before, during and after surgical or obstetrical procedures. Nurse anesthetists stay with their patients for the entire procedure, constantly monitoring every important body function and individually modifying the anesthetic to ensure maximum safety and comfort.

How do CRNAs Impact Healthcare?
CRNAs are the sole anesthesia providers in more than two-thirds of all rural hospitals in the United States, affording some 70 million rural Americans access to anesthesia. CRNAs provide a significant amount of the anesthesia in inner cities as well.

CRNAs are qualified and permitted by state law or regulations to practice in every state of the nation.

Meeting the Needs of Tomorrow
CRNAs have a proud history of meeting the challenges of changing healthcare trends. The recent acceleration of managed healthcare services will provide additional opportunities and new challenges for these advanced practice nurses. CRNAs will continue to be recognized as anesthesia specialists providing safe patient care.

CRNAs Fully Use Their Training
During surgery, the patient’s life often rests in the hands of the anesthesia provider. This awesome responsibility requires CRNAs to fully utilize every aspect of their anesthesia education, nursing skills, and scientific knowledge. CRNAs vigilantly monitor the patient’s vital signs, regulate the anesthetic as necessary, analyze situations, make decisions, communicate clearly with the other members of the surgical team, and respond quickly and appropriately in an emergency.

"The future looks bright for CRNAs," according to 1999 AANA President Linda R. Williams, CRNA, JD. "CRNAs are a glowing example of how advanced practice nurses can be used to provide affordable, high-quality healthcare to the citizens of this country."

The shortage of CRNAs in the marketplace spells job opportunities. With hospitals and other healthcare facilities scrutinizing their bottom lines, CRNAs offer an attractive option for providing anesthesia care. Also of interest is the fact that approximately eight nurse anesthetists can be educated for the cost of one anesthesiologist. Competitively, this gives CRNAs an advantage over anesthesiologists in a scenario where manpower supply and costs to the government and society are issues.

It is not the policy of the Council on Accreditation of Nurse Anesthesia Educational Programs (COA), nor the American Association of Nurse Anesthetists, to rank nurse anesthesia educational programs. All accredited programs of anesthesia follow the same accreditation standards, policies and procedures as set forth by the COA. Once they are accredited, they have to maintain the accreditation through periodic reviews to ensure they are following the standards.
 
Hi to HAL

Hi Hal I am in china and the 5 year old 737,s are in worse shape than thew Navajo's. Its a job and and pays 6500.

So you still there.
 
OFFICIALLY, I am a piano player in a whorehouse. Wouldn't want my mother to know where I REALLY work.
 
b757driver said:
#4 - well, not exactly - living @ home with VERY UNDERSTANDING wife supporting me as the federal government keeps extending my unemployment benefits!

Did 737 type rating earlier this year with WIA funds. Passsed with flying colors, applied to targeted airlines/corporations, even non-flying jobs - absolutely no hits on OVER A YEAR. Have THREE ICAO ATPs with THREE jet type ratings but no jobs - not even an "equal opportunity" interview. Now that would be really nice. And they tell me it's a wonderful life. Really? More like a crap shoot!!
How in the world are you able to receive extended unemployment benefits ??? If I missed a loophole please fill me so I can be on the phone the next day. Missiouri has slamed the door in my face since Mar 27 of this year, when my uemployment claim period expired, and we're done with you. My company folded because of stupid fiscal irresponsibility yet my local workforce counselor tells me that I'm elligible for WIA $$$. Then she pulls the rug from underneath me and tells me that they won't fully fund me for any type rating training that would possibly make me competitive - 737, Citation, nada!! She claims that the state feels investing that kind of money in a "...declining industry" is too risky. The I get a whiplash when she offers "...would you like to get your instructor rating's?" and boom! she submitted me for over $8700 for all the CFI stuff. Now I'll be waiting until next March with my luck before the state gets off their duff and find a way to fund and disperse it.

...and so it goes
 
j328ernest said:
How in the world are you able to receive extended unemployment benefits ??? If I missed a loophole please fill me so I can be on the phone the next day. Missiouri has slamed the door in my face since Mar 27 of this year, when my uemployment claim period expired, and we're done with you. My company folded because of stupid fiscal irresponsibility yet my local workforce counselor tells me that I'm elligible for WIA $$$. Then she pulls the rug from underneath me and tells me that they won't fully fund me for any type rating training that would possibly make me competitive - 737, Citation, nada!! She claims that the state feels investing that kind of money in a "...declining industry" is too risky. The I get a whiplash when she offers "...would you like to get your instructor rating's?" and boom! she submitted me for over $8700 for all the CFI stuff. Now I'll be waiting until next March with my luck before the state gets off their duff and find a way to fund and disperse it.

...and so it goes
The CFI stuff is a waste unless you will get living expenses or something out of it. CFI pay is below McDonalds. It will keep you current though.....The only decent CFI gigs I was offered over the years was at Riddle.....
 

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