Two-year upgrades at CAL?

[Deerkiller]

Point is CAL is hiring unqualified pilots regularly as favors to those already at the company. The market is full of 5000+ hour pilots with 1000+ Turbine PIC. CAL is hiring 1500 hour flight instructors just like UAL did six years ago.

CAL hires major airline pilots just like Gulfstream hires commuter pilots except CAL doesn't charge $30k like Gulfstream but the quality of hiring is the same.

Congrats...you get the idiot post of the day.

Quote your source, regarding the hiring of 1500hr flight instructors. You cant b/c it's not true. Stop being so bitter about not getting a call, dont worry it'll eventually come.

IDIOT

I'm standing by for the standard, "I didnt apply, or get turned down" comment

 

[luckytohaveajob]

I know people at XJT who know people at CAL. I have heard of CAL FO's who are 25 years old, pimp face, little kids.

If a 25 year old started flying at age 16 with high school and college they could hardly have more than 1500 hours. But they are getting hired at CAL because of their daddy's

 

[Deerkiller]

I know people at XJT who know people at CAL. I have heard of CAL FO's who are 25 years old, pimp face, little kids.

If a 25 year old started flying at age 16 with high school and college they could hardly have more than 1500 hours.

Try again. your "i know people who know people" just shows how uninformed you are.

 

[minrest]

A "kiddy coat tail rider". That's a new one.

Hmm, let's see, I have no relative currently or in the past working for CAL and I wasn't an intern. I'll wage that I have more flying experience than you and I'll guess that the reason you were rejected from CAL had to do with your attitude.

As for furloughed pilots from other airlines not getting hired. My new hire class of 12 had two ATA pilots and 3 Independence pilots.

But I forgot, you have that great internal source of information.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

It is not hard to spot a 25 year old pimp face little kid in a CAL uniform--kiddy coat tail rider.

Next time I in IAH, CLE, or EWR I am going to go kiddy coat tail rider spotting. I bet I find a few.

 

[minrest]

It is not hard to spot a 25 year old pimp face little kid in a CAL uniform.

And I'm sure you wish it were you!

 

[BoilerUP]

I know people at XJT who know people at CAL. I have heard of CAL FO's who are 25 years old, pimp face, little kids.

If a 25 year old started flying at age 16 with high school and college they could hardly have more than 1500 hours. But they are getting hired at CAL because of their daddy's.

If you don't like nepotism thats one thing, but why the chip on your shoulder regarding young pilots?

I know a 23 year old that just got hired at NetJets. They require an ATP and 2500 hours total time. He would have applied at 22 (met all the flight time requirements) but had to wait until his 23rd birthday to take his ATP ride.

Its amazing what you can do if you start flying early and instruct and fly charter for 3/4 years while in college...

 

[CAL EWR B737]

By the summer bid those spring 2005 pilots should have their 1500 hours and be able to get their ATP with the upgrade.

Do I smell some jealousy on this thread by several pilots? Look I have been at CAL for twenty years (in three days), flown several different of the aircraft we have or had here (up to the 747), have 5000 hours PIC 737 and over 15,000 hours total time and I wouldn't get hired at CAL today because I never finished my four year degree. Thats the way it is in today's market and I don't take it personally.

Yes we have hired some low time pilots, so does just about every major (I mean Legacy) during every hiring period in the last thirty years. That doesn't mean the majority of those we have hired aren't very qualified pilots. I know I have flown with many of them.

At my former regional (called commuters back in the old days) Pilgrim Airlines I witnessed most of our pilots get hired by majors (we had 80% turn over in one year in 1985). We had pilots get hired by just about every airline AA (the first B scalers the ones who on paper were to never make more than 50% of A scalers), DAL, UAL (the infamous 570) NW, Republic, US AIR, Piedmont, Eastern, TWA ETC. You could see the personality "type" of pilots each airline hired, it was actually kind of funny. American hired for the most part those that fit through the cookie cutter profile, Eastern and TWA seemed to hire our best and most liked pilots, United was mixed etc etc.

Fact is this is the way it has always been and probably always will be. However at least Continental takes referrals from their pilots very seriously and thus we the Continental pilots do have a significant say in who gets hired. Not perfect but the process seems to work well. From my stand point the vast majority of the pilots hired at CAL over the last two years are outstanding. Are there some exceptions to the rule, you betcha but hey no process is perfect!

 

[luckytohaveajob]

And I'm sure you wish it were you!

I look just like Dick Clark--timeless and always youthful.

 

[F16fixer]

"Next time I in IAH, CLE, or EWR I am going to go kiddy coat tail rider spotting. I bet I find a few."


are you Asian?

 

[luckytohaveajob]

"Next time I in IAH, CLE, or EWR I am going to go kiddy coat tail rider spotting. I bet I find a few."


are you Asian?

If I was Asian I would have been hired by CAL for sure. A kiddy coat tail rider, minority or women always get hired whether they can fly or not. It looks good on the brochures and company communications.

Ever seen CAL's welcome aboard video. Woman Captain.

 

[Deerkiller]

If I was Asian I would have been hired by CAL for sure. A kiddy coat tail rider, minority or women always get hired whether they can fly or not. It looks good on the brochures and company communications.

Ever seen CAL's welcome aboard video. Woman Captain.

That shows how long it's been since you've ridden on a CAL a/c.

Go home little boy, go home.

 

[CAL EWR B737]

qualified is getting hired for an individuals flying skills and experience which includes life experience and background.

unqualified is when you get hired because your daddy got you the job when furloughed major airline pilots sit on the street and can not even get an interview because of all the little kiddy's riding their daddy's coat tails.

are you a kiddy coat tail rider minrest?

You know what I am glad they haven't hired you looks like our selection process did a satisfactory job in spitting you out of the qualified pile!

Hey and watch what you say about those hired young. I was hired at CAL at 21 and didn't know a sole. I had 3500 hours including 1000 jet (F-28 70,000 pound jet) and a 1000 turbine. I also had interviews at Federal Express and Piedmont within months of my CAL interview and I didn't have any relatives at those carriers either.

Sounds like someone is very jealous!

 

[luckytohaveajob]

You know what I am glad they haven't hired you looks like our selection process did a satisfactory job in spitting you out of the qualified pile!

Hey and watch what you say about those hired young. I was hired at CAL at 21 and didn't know a sole. I had 3500 hours including 1000 jet (F-28 70,000 pound jet) and a 1000 turbine. I also had interviews at Federal Express and Piedmont within months of my CAL interview and I didn't have any relatives at those carriers either.

Sounds like someone is very jealous!

Did you get hired in 1983-1984?

 

[Deerkiller]

Did you get hired in 1983-1984?

Now you've stepped in it

Sitting by w/ my popcorn

 

[luckytohaveajob]

what you got? i have got my chuck norris t-shirt on.

 

[MECH]

I would say he was hired in 1987. As he wrote that he would have been at CAL for 20 years in 3 days.

 

[Deerkiller]

what you got? i have got my chuck norris t-shirt on.

Just go back to your flight simulator. It'll be better for all of us. Be sure and stop by the cockpit next time your on a CAL a/c(make sure it's ok w/ mommy first) and I'll autograph your ticket.

 

[CAL EWR B737]

Did you get hired in 1983-1984?

Looks like you mastered math unsatisfactorily wonder how you fly?? In an earlier post a few minutes ago I said in three days I will be at CAL twenty years. Lets see by my calculations that would make my DOH at CAL 4-13-87.

1983-1984??? If you are going to quote the strike at CAL at least quote the correct dates September 1983 to October 1985. Boy you are a real rocket scientist aren't you?

Don't lecture me about strikes etc., I am the CAL ALPA Strike Chairman.

 

[Deerkiller]

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