Two IAP questions

[Lead Sled]

Thanks for all your answers. Everything that has been said clears things up immensely.

There are a couple of books that I highly recommend for new IR pilots...
Instrument Flying by Taylor and Weather Flying by Buck. You can probably find both of those books at most of the larger book stores or on line. They're both excellent reads and will go a long way towards helping you to understand how to fly IFR in the real world.

Lead Sled

 

[100LL... Again!]

You gotta do the entry even if you are lined up perfectly.

Two reasons:

1) There is no legal relief from the requirement to do the reversal, even if you are pefectly lined up. In other words, it is not permissible for the VOR to be both IAF AND FAF at the same time - you gotta cross it twice. Seems sill, but it ties into #2...

2) Suppose you are lined up perfectly but are 800 feet above the inbound altitude? Without the 'remain within 10nm' tht is on the profile view of the plate, how do you know when you can go down to the inbound altitude? If you wait until you hit the VOR, you got an extra 800 to lose.

Can you rephrase the questions from your previous post and PM them?
I'll do my best to answer.

 

[midlifeflyer]

If you're established inbound before the IAF.

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Ah, I understand.

100LL has it exactly right. But the third reason is that's what the rules say.

If you are on vectors to final or are doing the full approach but coming in from a feeder, fix, route or sector that is marked "NoPT", then the racetrack is irrelevant.

Otherwise, if you are cleared for the full approach, yes, you have to enter the hold and cross the fix twice, even if you are on the inbound course before the racetrack fix.

 

[Crizz]

Even with as much BS as flies on this board, it can still be useful.

Thanks for the responses guys.